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09-23-2017, 03:56 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 522
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Thanks, I'm getting PMs telling me the same thing. Anxious to get on the road and try it out.
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Jim and Carol Cooper with Oreo the Kitty
FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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09-23-2017, 04:28 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 108
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Cooperhawk,
One other thing that I found very helpful.
Our Saturn requires pulling a fuse to prevent battery drain. It's not a lot of work to do, but I decided to install a "cutoff switch". That took some designing and install, but it was well worth it. now I just flick the switch under the dash and that's done.
If your car requires that, you might consider the switch.
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09-23-2017, 05:49 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Vermont
Posts: 18
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No one has mentioned the Redi Brake mechanical system yet so thought I'd add my 2 cents. I have only used it on 2 trips so far, but long ones. 1,500 miles and then about 3,000 miles.
Seems to work great with my 36' DP Journey. Mechanic added a switch to the lower dash to cut off the battery drain as I had read that getting to the fuse is a real bear.
Not hard to set up once cables are set the first time. I like it...but does anyone have any comments on why it is not chosen very much? Something I don't know yet???
Thanks,
Bajasoon
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09-23-2017, 08:45 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyking
Cooperhawk,
One other thing that I found very helpful.
Our Saturn requires pulling a fuse to prevent battery drain. It's not a lot of work to do, but I decided to install a "cutoff switch". That took some designing and install, but it was well worth it. now I just flick the switch under the dash and that's done.
If your car requires that, you might consider the switch.
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Thanks but we have installed a line to charge the battery as we go down the highway. Hope that does the job.
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Jim and Carol Cooper with Oreo the Kitty
FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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09-24-2017, 04:08 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 108
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Cooperhawk,
A charge line is good. The invisibrake system supplies a charge via the coach driving lights.
On the Saturn, the fuse pull is for a different reason than powering the brake pump. When towing with the trans in neutral, the key can only be turned back to the "ACC" position, in order to prevent the steering wheel from locking. Very good, but all the "ACC" drain will occur, like radio, a/c fan, and others. So the fuse gets pulled to stop that drain. Forgot it once and the battery died, hence the switch.
All vehicles are different and yours may not need that. If it does, it is mandatory. See owners manual or online info.
You will be so happy you installed your system. I makes travel so easy! We just got back from 10,000 miles of US and Canada. 9 weeks, but needed 6 months more!
Wow, am I long winded in my old age (70).
Happy travels.
Richard, retired ATCS as well.
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09-24-2017, 04:33 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 108
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Why is VW not listed in "Motorhome Magazine" towing guides? 2007-2013
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09-24-2017, 10:01 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 522
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Probably because they can't be towed four down. We used a dolly for ours.
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Jim and Carol Cooper with Oreo the Kitty
FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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09-24-2017, 07:33 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Redding, CA
Posts: 51
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We use the SMI braking system. It is very clean and very easy to hook up. We did not install it ourselves. It is hooked up to our air system on the coach so the braking is in proportion to what the coach does. My husband says it works very well and it has a sensor that stays on the dash to show that it is working.
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Mary & Pat
2005 Winnebago Journey 39F
2013 Ford C-Max Energi
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09-25-2017, 06:01 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 219
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Delta Force
We had Delta Force installed last Fall when we bought our new MW 31D. We were able to keep our old but reliable toad, a '02 Honda CRV. Delta Force works well. The best part is the connect/disconnect is easy and takes 5 minutes. We plan to buy a new CRV in a few years to carry us through retirement. This '02 has been a toad for 15 years!
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09-26-2017, 06:27 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Vermont
Posts: 18
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towing Honda's in the future
TJFolgerburg....Just to let you know, from what I've read, Honda CRV's changed transmission in 2015. !!! From what I understand, the latest year you can tow 4 on the ground is 2014....which is what I have.
I've written to Subaru, (I always loved the Forester), and now to Honda, telling them they will be cutting out a growing market by not offering a tow-able SUV that is also an automatic. After suggesting the manual trans to me, I explained that with a tendinitis issue always waiting to act up that that is not an option. Also said I'm probably not alone not wanting a manual.
So I guess we'll see if they are spot on judging the growing retiree / RV'rs market and go back to towable trans!
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10-09-2017, 07:22 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 522
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Just to follow up on our AF1 install. First of all you need to strip the Explorer down to the bare radiator removing the entire front facade. Not too bad, but under all of that is a bumper that Ford installed where it cannot be seen. The instructions say to drill out the six spot welds and then unbolt it. We ruined 8 drill bits trying to drill out the first one and finally went to a plasma cutter to cut them out. Found out the bumper is made of Boron Steel and is incredibly strong.
All installed now and I towed the Explorer home with the MH. Towed really great and the AF1 worked flawlessly. Very happy. First trip starts on Wednesday.
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Jim and Carol Cooper with Oreo the Kitty
FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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10-15-2017, 02:55 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Central America, - Oklahoma
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooperhawk
The instructions say to drill out the six spot welds and then unbolt it. We ruined 8 drill bits trying to drill out the first one and finally went to a plasma cutter to cut them out. Found out the bumper is made of Boron Steel and is incredibly strong.
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Spot welds are very hard anyway.
Glad you got it out.
Lee
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2005 34' Itasca
350 Cat Allison 3000 6 spd.
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10-27-2017, 08:43 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Orange County CA
Posts: 190
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"I'm not bad-mouthing a tow-dolly..."
I will - they're a joke! LOL Everyone has to decide what works for them. It's a great option for any vehicle that cannot be flat-towed however. Flat-towing is by far more efficient and convenient.
And another vote for BrakeBuddy here. I bought one from the original inventor some years ago. When he sold the company he had a few dozen units left over that were returns with failures, refurbished to be as new, and was selling them on ebay for $500. It's been flawless for many years now.
I like how clean the setup is, no additional hardware installation, goes from car to car easily (we've had numerous toads) and works really well. The transmitter indicator from toad to MH cab is nice to be able to see when it activates. I have mine set so it only activates under hard braking - otherwise it just coasts along back there.
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Chris & Sherry Brown - 2005 Itasca Sunrise 31W - W20 and 8.1
2015 Chevy Colorado 4X4 Toad
2021 Chevy Spark Toad
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10-28-2017, 08:07 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 23
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After observing some challenges campers face using dolly, we chose brake buddy, falcon2 with our 2013 crv.brake buddy has good customer service.
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New to MH RVing,had TTs/HTT/PUPs/Tents, retired 2013,now have more time for church ministries,fam,friends, camping, we have 2017 WB Itasco Spirit 31G,Ford E450,33', 2013 CRV AWD Toad/Falcon2/BrBuddy
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