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02-12-2016, 07:14 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Wilmington, NC
Posts: 4
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Roadmaster Stowmaster Eagle 8000
Good evening everyone. Well, I now have more questions. I purchased a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Unlimited today. Happy Valentines Day, beautiful bride! We intend to flat tow it behind our newly purchased Winnebago Adventurer 38j. The m/h already has a Roadmaster Stowmaster Eagle 8000 hitch. My question is, what do I get installed on the Jeep to match the Roadmaster, or do I have to replace both in order to safely tow the Jeep four down? Also, will it be necessary to have a brake system on the toad and should I get some type of rock guard to protect my new toy's paint job? The Winnebago already sports a rear skirt. Anything else I need to make sure the Jeep ends up at the same place as the motorhome when we are traveling? Thank you in advance for your help.
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02-12-2016, 07:30 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 560
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Brake system is not required in some states, BUT, unlike drivers licenses, there is no reciprocity on equipment. So, even though your home state might not require them if you go into any state that does you need to be in compliance. Pretty much means you have to have them. There are charts on the internet that purport to show the laws but most are for TT's and lots of states (WA is one) don't consider a motorized vehicle towing a motorized vehicle to be a TT set up.
Some states (WA, OR and CA) use a performance spec: stop from XX mph in XX ft and no add'l braking required. WA and CA are the same, OR is tougher. Our Magna can easily match these specs but still not legal in all states.
But, the more weight you have the more braking force is required to stop them. The laws of physics come into play.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft
Charter Lifetime GS Member, SKP, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 CR-V
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02-12-2016, 07:35 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Queen Creek AZ
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Brake system is not required in some states
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Yes but brake system "is" required in most states!
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2016 Entegra Anthem 44B Victory Blue Toad: 2017 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid with Air Force One
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02-12-2016, 08:05 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Wilmington, NC
Posts: 4
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Thank you for the info on brake systems. Do you have an opinion as to which
unit would be best for this application?
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02-13-2016, 09:08 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20
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I just had the Blue Ox wiring harness put on my 2015 Rubicon, and already tested it on a trip to FL from MD. It works perfect, and although a bit more expensive than some(cost about ($200), it worked perfectly. Some of the cheaper ones have issues with supplemental braking systems and the current brake lights.
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02-23-2016, 08:09 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 21
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Just purchased Winnie vista LX 35f and I am planning on towing my Sahara.
Picked up blu ox aventa and was going to use the blue ox patriot wireless brake system. Anyone out there have any comments on the patriot. It's pricey but I like the wireless option
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02-23-2016, 09:41 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mid-Missouri
Posts: 9
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I'm in the same boat. Got a Jeep Wrangler to drive/tow. Used tow bar. Even a used US Gear Unified Tow Brake. Now to get it installed (by me) and we aren't even home!
You just need to get a base plate for the Jeep and matching connectors to hook the tow bar to it. Roadmaster is pretty standard.
It all depends on what you want/like for braking. There are many options: wired, wireless, removable and surge. Some allow progressive braking - the harder you stop, the harder they apply brakes.
Tail light/blinker wiring will be required for any type/style. You existing umbilical wire harness should be reusable - pretty much an industry standard wire connection - just ends differ.
Break Away set up is a must, also.
Do a Google search for:
Brake Buddy for one type of removable system.
Ready Brake for an on the hitch surge system.
Go to about any RV parts web site and search for braking systems. There area a lot out there.
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1998 42' Overland Larado Diesel Pusher
On the road - here and there - Full Timing
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02-24-2016, 06:14 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Enterprise, Alabama
Posts: 87
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBelchers
Just purchased Winnie vista LX 35f and I am planning on towing my Sahara.
Picked up blu ox aventa and was going to use the blue ox patriot wireless brake system. Anyone out there have any comments on the patriot. It's pricey but I like the wireless option
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I have a Blue Ox Patriot.
The system works as advertised. Even had to have the unit serviced once, and Blue OX did a fantastic job of repair and replacement. They charged less than they estimated over the phone too.
Unfortunately, you will need to crank and run your TOAD occasionally unless you can keep your TOAD battery charged via the MH.
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02-24-2016, 07:19 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 21
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Thanks for the input. Very helpful.
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02-24-2016, 08:46 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 176
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Braking
We have used the "SMI" braking system on the last 3 coaches and have been totally happy with the performance. Also nothing to remove in the vehicle. Just unhook the tow bar and drive away
Would also recommend adding a "Charge" wire from the coach to your vehicle battery.
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