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Old 06-27-2011, 08:07 PM   #1
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2012 Winnebagos

The 2012 seek previews are up on the Winnebago web site.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:58 PM   #2
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I'm glad my Vista is a 2011. It looks like nearly everything is the same but the chassis. I have the 32K which has a 22,000 lb GVWR whereas the 2012 32K has a 20,500 lb GVWR. Granted we run fully loaded under 19,000 lbs but it is comforting to know the chassis can handle the higher weight load.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:39 PM   #3
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I'm thinking the same thing with our Tour. If the specs are right, the gray tank on the 2012 is roughly half of the 2011 (58 vs 105). Browsing through the rest of the specs, I don't see anything that makes me wish I'd waited for the 2012.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:29 AM   #4
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I don't think the engineer that designs winnebago or most any brand has never actually lived in a motorhome. they ought to be forced to live in what they design for at least a year, before it goes to market
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:00 AM   #5
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I'm thinking the same thing with our Tour. If the specs are right, the gray tank on the 2012 is roughly half of the 2011 (58 vs 105). Browsing through the rest of the specs, I don't see anything that makes me wish I'd waited for the 2012.
I hope that's a misprint on the grey tank capacity. Black tank I could see but not grey. Winnebago knows better than that.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:26 PM   #6
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I do believe it is a split tank, not just 58 gallons. I think it shows 58/100. But if you look at the Itasca 2012 Ellipse there is NO 40 footers anymore Just 42 foot tag axels

The only 40 footers are in the Meridan Class.

Will have to check them out at the Harrisburg show real close. That 2011 Ellipse 40 ft. CD looks better and better.

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Old 06-28-2011, 09:55 PM   #7
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They are split tanks, and have been. Our '08 Tour 40TD had two tanks with the total of 100 plus gallons. They've always listed the total of the two. If this isn't a misprint, then they've probably removed one of the tanks on the '12 model.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:37 PM   #8
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I am sorry but I cannot find the sneek preview site??
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:03 PM   #9
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All I can say is that is one huge bathroom in the new 42JD
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:23 AM   #10
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Reducing the size of the gray tank in the QD would be a bad thing, for sure. It is not critical, but if anything, they should increase the size of the black tank. Regarding the new floorplan, the JD (did I get that right?), the only TV I see is over the front dash. The one major reason we stayed with the W is the heads on viewing. I, for one, do not like the neck craning needed to watch TV in this floorplan. But, others may differ. The one thing I do like about the 12's is the ZF Independent Front Suspension. Had that on my last Vectra. The solid axel on my 11 is acceptable, but the IFS would be fantastic. Also, on the QD (and now the JD), I wish Winnebago would have revised the entry into the front powder room to make it easier for future owners to enter it while the slides are closed. Perhaps a pocket door??
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:51 AM   #11
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dengraham: Just go to Winnie regular web site Winnebago Industries and click on 2012 sneak preview.

On the tanks... Black 53 Gallons / Gray 105 Gallons. Yepper the JD has the opposing couches, thus the TV is up front over the drivers head. That is why I am a fan of the QD also.

I still like sorta the 2011 CD, but again the TV is overhead.

42 FT. Tags worry me. Extra lenght, extra tires, probably more turnpike expense with more axels. I still have to drive one and experience the feel..

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Old 06-29-2011, 01:30 PM   #12
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Our 2012 Adventurer 35P came in yestderday. Doing PDI tomorrow, then off to camp for weekend. We are very pleased with how it looks so far.
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:26 PM   #13
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^ Interesting, I didn't know they were delivering 2012s already. It's still June!

Congrats on the new motorhome.
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:31 PM   #14
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model year does not seem to mean much anymore. Newmar was selling 2012 coaches at the Tampa Supershow in January 2011.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:27 PM   #15
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I do believe it is a split tank, not just 58 gallons. I think it shows 58/100. But if you look at the Itasca 2012 Ellipse there is NO 40 footers anymore Just 42 foot tag axels

The only 40 footers are in the Meridan Class.

Will have to check them out at the Harrisburg show real close. That 2011 Ellipse 40 ft. CD looks better and better.

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I see a 40' in the Journey line

Look here

http://http://www.gowinnebago.com/products/2012/journey/floorplans/

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Old 07-12-2011, 12:38 AM   #16
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We just ordered our 2012 Ellipse 42qd and will pick it up at Lichtsinn on Aug 1st. I also looked at the 2011 and am glad I waited. By the way, I understand the gray/black tank sizes in the web site previews are a typo.

We are relatively new to RVing by about a year, but loving it.

I'll let everyone know how it works out

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Old 07-13-2011, 12:30 PM   #17
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We just ordered our 2012 Ellipse 42qd and will pick it up at Lichtsinn on Aug 1st. I also looked at the 2011 and am glad I waited. By the way, I understand the gray/black tank sizes in the web site previews are a typo.

We are relatively new to RVing by about a year, but loving it.

I'll let everyone know how it works out

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Hi Bob:

If you don't mind me asking. What did you like in the 2012 model compared to the 2011.

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Hi Bob:

If you don't mind me asking. What did you like in the 2012 model compared to the 2011.

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Jim,

There was quite a lot that pushed us to the 2012. Here's my list of what was important

Independent front suspension
Bigger tires 295 vs 275 In the 2011 (my adventurer has 225)
End wall on slides are painted
Better and bigger microwave
More pantry and wardrobe space
Permanent surge protector built in
Switches at entry are lighted. (a lot of others have complained about the lack of lights for the switches in the 2011)
Nicer floor tiles (polished porcelain)
Improved bed raising mechanism. Our 2011 adventurer had the old raiser and it caused us much grief
New "jack" TV antennae and blue ray disk player

Another major reason is that when we get ready to sell or trade in, our trade will be a 12 ... not an 11. When we bought our 2011 adventurer a year ago we had the same option, buy a 11 or save some money and get a 10. Were benefiting from that decision on this trade.

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Old 07-14-2011, 04:21 PM   #19
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Hi Bob:

Thanks for the reply. That is quite a few items. I also notice the ceiling trim on 2012's Ellipse 42 is more elaborate than the 2011.

Will be checking out the new coaches at the Harrisburg Show coming up.

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Hi Bob:

Thanks for the reply. That is quite a few items. I also notice the ceiling trim on 2012's Ellipse 42 is more elaborate than the 2011.

Will be checking out the new coaches at the Harrisburg Show coming up.

Thanks Jim P.
Yeah Jim, there were a few other things like the ceiling trim. Also the vehicle GVWR is slightly higher in 2012, and there is a propane connection for a grill, etc

The thing I did was list all the differences between the two years, including the trade value difference, and then just ask yourself if it is worth it.

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