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03-18-2015, 08:05 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Monroe, NC
Posts: 41
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Slide issue again!
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Lindsay and Laddie-Paw Pals
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03-18-2015, 12:27 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Woodburn Oregon USA
Posts: 66
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I don't have a Winnebago but I do have some thoughts on this issue. I had a similar problem with my Holiday Rambler but not to the extent you have.
On my coach the top of the slide would sometimes go under the wall rather than coming to rest against it. This allowed the slide to then tilt and it would jamb in the hole. I fixed mine by installing a metal door threshold on the upper lip of the slide. This now acts as my upper slide stop and I have had no problems since.
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03-18-2015, 02:45 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Circleville, Ohio
Posts: 39
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Sorry for your frustrations. I'm sure I would be upset.
I would work with the dealer or the factory. One of them should step up and fix it to your satisfaction. If no satisfaction with either of those routes, I would then check into your options under the lemon laws. Since this is a documented ongoing issue, I would think you would be better that route than through a class action suit. Class actions usually take many years, and attorneys fees can really add up.
With time and everything else considered, you may be best to just trade out of it into something you can enjoy.
Good luck.
Steve
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03-18-2015, 02:56 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 560
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAWTELLE
Wonder if anyone has thought of a class action lawsuit against Winnebago.
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For a slide problem? Not worth the effort.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft
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RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 CR-V
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03-18-2015, 02:58 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 560
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve COH
Sorry for your frustrations. I'm sure I would be upset.
I would work with the dealer or the factory. One of them should step up and fix it to your satisfaction. If no satisfaction with either of those routes, I would then check into your options under the lemon laws. Since this is a documented ongoing issue, I would think you would be better that route than through a class action suit. Class actions usually take many years, and attorneys fees can really add up.
With time and everything else considered, you may be best to just trade out of it into something you can enjoy.
Good luck.
Steve
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Not many states have Lemon Laws that cover RV's, and then its usually only for the chassis for safety problems. And a stuck slide, while inconvenient, isn't a safety issue. Now, if the slide went out while driving, that'd be different.
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03-18-2015, 07:03 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 19
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Sawtelle, What was fixed on the two previous problems? I have had problems with both driver and passenger slide outs. Mine can be manually cranked in or out. Slides are run by Powergear motors. They never found out why the passenger slide only worked periodically. The driver side slide problem was supposedly caused by a loose wiring connection behind the fireplace.
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03-18-2015, 07:47 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 129
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the problem is not just with Winnebagoit is with the schwintech (sp) slide system on larger slides but after the problems became apparent Winnebago should have stopped using it on the larger slides I have moved on from Winnebago because of customer service issues ( most likely campingworld)but they do make a very nice Motorhome
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03-18-2015, 08:56 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,520
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All motor home manufacturers are at the mercy of the slide out vendors who do not seem to be doing a very good job of providing quality assemblies the past few years.
The dealer can also be a very big part of the problem too. I had to get HWH involved when the Service Advisor where I bought mine just refused to call HWH and get the free repair kit and labor reimbursement from them. After all that they didn't follow the HWH procedure 100% either adding several hours of additional labor due to the dealers mistake and then they charged me out of pocket fees to pay for their error.
It would be nice if service advisors actually knew something about the products that they are advising people on.
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2001 Winnebago Adventurer WFG35U
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03-19-2015, 07:36 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Monroe, NC
Posts: 41
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The last fix on our slide included new motors (500/1 ratio), new tracks, and heavier rollers. Sadly when I spoke to the service tech at Winnebago he indicated they did not have a permanent fix for the issue. The Lippert/Schwintek mechanism just can't handle the weight of the slide apparently. Not sure what they will do now-the last fix took CW, Lippert, and Winnebago to come up with current setup. Just so disappointed as we really like the floor plan, storage, and ride. 😥
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03-19-2015, 09:02 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAWTELLE
The last fix on our slide included new motors (500/1 ratio), new tracks, and heavier rollers. Sadly when I spoke to the service tech at Winnebago he indicated they did not have a permanent fix for the issue. The Lippert/Schwintek mechanism just can't handle the weight of the slide apparently. Not sure what they will do now-the last fix took CW, Lippert, and Winnebago to come up with current setup. Just so disappointed as we really like the floor plan, storage, and ride. 😥
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We had a 2011 40u had no slide problems (had powergear) loved the floor plan but the toilet room is tight for those of us over 6'.so since we had great luck with the 40u we bought a 2013 42qd but alas sshwintek was a pandoras box.
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03-19-2015, 12:26 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAWTELLE
The last fix on our slide included new motors (500/1 ratio), new tracks, and heavier rollers. Sadly when I spoke to the service tech at Winnebago he indicated they did not have a permanent fix for the issue. The Lippert/Schwintek mechanism just can't handle the weight of the slide apparently. Not sure what they will do now-the last fix took CW, Lippert, and Winnebago to come up with current setup. Just so disappointed as we really like the floor plan, storage, and ride.
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Then it sounds like Lippert may have been a bit optomistic when they rated the slide mechanisms load capacity. I believe they no too long ago did similar with their Lippert fifth wheel trailer chassis which failed at the necks.
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2001 Winnebago Adventurer WFG35U
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03-24-2015, 07:52 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 24
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Winnebago makes a great motorhome, the only reason I would not buy one is because of the Schwintek slides, many problems. I have spoken to a few owners all had slide problems. I cannot believe that winnebago continues to use Schwintek slides
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03-25-2015, 01:31 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 403
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I am also not a fan of my Schwintek slideout on my 2013 Sunstar 26HE. The slideout was at the dealership for two months. It was making an unusual noise and would not properly seal against the inside wall when extended. The dealership replaced a portion of the slide rails. The slideout does function, but still does not properly seal against the inside wall. When extended, it is about 1/2 to 1 inch from sealing against the wall. The dealership cannot figure out why it will not seal against the wall and said the slide out is operating properly. Luckily, the gaskets seam to keep the weather out. Winnebago was no help and Lippert said it appears the slideout was not properly installed by the manufacturer. (Photo attached - picture of slide out is sideways).
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03-25-2015, 01:45 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 560
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilV
All motor home manufacturers are at the mercy of the slide out vendors who do not seem to be doing a very good job of providing quality assemblies the past few years.
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Newmar makes their own slideout mechanism and has for many years now.
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03-25-2015, 09:16 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 32
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Here is information on your system. I also had a steep learning curve on my slideout system. After many "learning" events I was able to make the slides happy when I used them. You will find that you have to diagnose and fix as many problems as you can by yourself.
I have a full wall slide that will only come in under power no matter how many helpers there are.
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Pcurt
2007 Fleetwood Bounder 38V
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03-25-2015, 03:09 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 245
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Schwintek has FINALLY realized that they under engineered the slide system they sold to Winnebago, Thor and several other RV mfrs. and are now using a 3 track system for the larger full wall slides. I don't know if there's anyway you can get your unit back to the Winnebago factory and try to get them to upgrade your slides to the newer 3 rail systems.
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03-26-2015, 08:37 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Monroe, NC
Posts: 41
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Thanks for the input. Unfortunately we are in NC so not easy to get to the factory, however Tom Johnson has worked on this and other rv's we've had and do great work so hopefully they may be able to work with Winnebago and Lippert and get it fixed. Love the coach but just frustrated and a little nervous when we put the slide out.
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Lindsay and Laddie-Paw Pals
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03-26-2015, 08:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 20
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Folks, you are not alone with your Schwintech slide system problems! Thor Palazzo has had the same problems for over 3 years and it is still ongoing. I would suggest reading some of the horror stories in the Palazzo section of this forum...
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06-20-2015, 03:56 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: On The Road F/T in June 14
Posts: 7
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Winnebago NO NO NO
I (and two other Tour owners I met) have the same problems you are having. Two weeks ago I had my front Lippert/Schwintek slide mechanisms repaired for the 5th time in 6 months. 2014 Tour 42 QD. Over 80 documented failures in the coach since bought new in Feb 2014. 3 items broken now as I write this. Been down over 100 days waiting for repairs/parts. Many repeat failures. Several are safety issues such as engine brake failures. Even a 5 day stay at the factory could not fix all the defects---some they told me are not repairable!!!
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06-20-2015, 09:42 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 45
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So we hear lots about failures, fixes then failures at the factory, talk about how to make the Schwinteks work properly......but are any of the members acually using these things without failures???
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