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10-16-2014, 06:57 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WHITING,NJ,USA
Posts: 470
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Surprise from HWH
I recently called HWH with a question for their tech support. I know usually they are busy and I either stay on hold for a while or I have them call back which they have done maybe in an hour or so later but usually the same day. I was surprised when the person on the tech support line advised me that I could leave my number and someone will call me back in 5-6 weeks. I asked her if I heard her correctly she yes in 5-6 weeks we are busy and only have 2 techs. I asked if they were going out of business and I told her to forget it,,,she then hung up. Has anyone had this treatment recently.
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07 Itasca Ellipse 40fd, 2014 Honda CRV, greyhound lab mix, pit pointer mix(RIP bessie) , shar pei mix, stupid cat, wife
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10-16-2014, 07:06 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
Posts: 39
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Yikes, if I had HWH products time to worry. Sounds like they are running out of diesel! Hope not, lots of folks out there in RV land with their product. Really 5 or 6 weeks?
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Clay & Pebble.. Miss Butter our sweet Goldie (Jan. 2005-Jan. 2015) Sissy our Border Collie
2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
Ford Edge toad, RM All Terrane, TST TPMS, SMI Air Force One, RVM95....
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10-16-2014, 07:16 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 32
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YUP--think they are holding on by a thread.....understand they are still providing acceptable service if you make the trip to Moscow but dont expect anything over the phone....so like, what else is there to do in a corn field, in Iowa?
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2003 40' MDTS
Garden Ridge, Texas
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10-16-2014, 07:58 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fort Worth TX
Posts: 7
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Try calling these people:
HWH Replacement Parts - Stuart's Services
They sell parts and can help...
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Pulling my 2012 Malibu w/Blue OX & Patriot brake unit
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10-16-2014, 08:20 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 16
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Heck their tech support for dealers has not been much better in many years. I have had them call me back several days after the customer gave up and left or we fixed it without their help. Thank God nothing we currently sell uses any of their stuff they have been circling the drain for many years. The sad part is they make a very good product but for years priced themselves out of many markets and now they can't get back in.
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10-16-2014, 08:37 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,169
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That is sad to hear. I certainly hope they stay in business. My coach, and many others like it have their air leveling system which is not a simple gizmo.
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'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
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10-16-2014, 08:56 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 9
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Its been that way for years and is not going to change any time soon.
That's what HWH says about their tech support.
They are not going under, people had this same complaint 4 years.
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2013 DSDP 4347, all electric, 450 H.P. ISL
Air & hydraulic leveling
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10-16-2014, 09:07 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PDR John
Its been that way for years and is not going to change any time soon.
That's what HWH says about their tech support.
They are not going under, people had this same complaint 4 years.
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It does appear that many/most of the motorhome builders are using Lippert stuff on their coaches now so that must have a negative impact on HWH business. However, since they are in the middle of America's bread basket, perhaps the agricultural industry keeps them going.
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'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
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10-17-2014, 04:17 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 307
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This is sad. I had two great visits to their factory for repairs in 2002 and 2004. They gave me an electric overnight site and took us to lunch. I was out of warranty in 04 and wasn't charged for repairs.
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10-17-2014, 11:27 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 9
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We spent 3 days living in the factory (having air leveling added), it was operating 24 hours a day. They also make all their parts in house, everything but the air compressor and hydraulic pump.
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2013 DSDP 4347, all electric, 450 H.P. ISL
Air & hydraulic leveling
14 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland toad
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10-17-2014, 04:30 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hometown is Schenectady, NY
Posts: 237
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We also were at HWH 3 times on different issues. Twice just for check ups since we were in the area anyway. On site work is terrific. Never called them for help except to make appointments. They are a very busy place though. Hope they stay around.
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2004 Winnebago Vectra 40AD - 350 Cummins ISC; Toad 2012 Wrangler 6 speed
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10-17-2014, 07:00 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pahrump, NV
Posts: 125
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Happened to me. Took 3 weeks for a question and then decided to take it to Moscow-been there before. I'll need to make an appointment about a month in advance. Might try emailing, I've had good response from Joe Portello with parts questions.
Rich
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10-17-2014, 07:09 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 478
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Earlier this year I had a bedroom slide problem, called them and left a message. A tech called the next day (maybe it was the same day) and we discussed the problem. An hour after the conversation he emailed a drawing (couldn't spell skamatic and still can't) that showed the system and I was able to resolve the problem. The HWH responses might just depend on how busy they are, who knows, but right now I'm a satisfied customer (but won't be if I run into the same response asthe OP)
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SW OREGON 2004 Journey 39K, 330 Cat
If towing: a 2006 Mini Cooper or 1995 Wrangler
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10-17-2014, 07:24 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ciderdog
... (couldn't spell skamatic and still can't) ...
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s c h e m a t i c
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2006 Winnebago Voyage 33V Pushed by a 2014 Chevrolet Captiva
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10-17-2014, 07:26 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
Posts: 27
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A few years ago I had a front blowout that took out all my HWH wiring in the fender well. Their support then was fantastic and for less than 200 I was able to replace the chewed up harnesses. Just can't understand what happened to them.
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98 Endeavor DP, ISB275
RX300, Falcon II hitch, BB Vantage Select
VMSpc, 2002 Grey Ford Powerstroke
TST 507 w/ 10 Sensors
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10-25-2014, 05:32 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: behind the steering wheel
Posts: 95
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my name is paul maddox.i live in paulden arizona.
i work for hwh as a technical sales rep. i do repairs on problem coaches all the time.
i also do training for manufacturers on first time installations. i do dealer training all the time. if you need diagnostic help, my cell number is 1-602-549-3638.
its on all the time. i return calls the same day. even if you have to leave a message. i travel a lot so sometimes you may have to leave a message.
before you call, please download a service manual so we can go over the diagnosis and the repair. the manual makes it a lot easier for both of us.
if you need help identifying your system please call anyway.
i post my number on here all the time, and get surprisingly few calls.
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10-25-2014, 06:05 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
Posts: 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azpete
my name is paul maddox.i live in paulden arizona.
i work for hwh as a technical sales rep. i do repairs on problem coaches all the time.
i also do training for manufacturers on first time installations. i do dealer training all the time. if you need diagnostic help, my cell number is 1-602-549-3638.
its on all the time. i return calls the same day. even if you have to leave a message. i travel a lot so sometimes you may have to leave a message.
before you call, please download a service manual so we can go over the diagnosis and the repair. the manual makes it a lot easier for both of us.
if you need help identifying your system please call anyway.
i post my number on here all the time, and get surprisingly few calls.
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Paul, Now that is what I was talking about when I said fantastic service. I will keep your number. I may write a troubleshooting blog on my 210 system to help people out. It will take a little while, maybe a few weeks. I will pm you if I get it done and ask to review it.
tom
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98 Endeavor DP, ISB275
RX300, Falcon II hitch, BB Vantage Select
VMSpc, 2002 Grey Ford Powerstroke
TST 507 w/ 10 Sensors
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10-25-2014, 06:16 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hometown is Schenectady, NY
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azpete
my name is paul maddox.i live in paulden arizona.
i work for hwh as a technical sales rep. i do repairs on problem coaches all the time.
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Ditto that. I have your number and will call if/when we have a problem. THANKS!
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2004 Winnebago Vectra 40AD - 350 Cummins ISC; Toad 2012 Wrangler 6 speed
SKP, WIT, FMCA, FCOC, GoodSam, Cummins Power Club
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10-25-2014, 07:11 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Home is where we park.
Posts: 62
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Apologies upfront for the length of this post but it is a kind of a long story. In late August I contacted Camping World (CW) in Hendersonville, NC ( Near Asheville) to have my HWH leveling system, in particular the springs and jack feet repaired. Together we called HWH and ordered the parts.
Come repair day, you got it no parts. I of course blamed CW but while having some other planned work done I called HWH. The lady who answered the phone tried to brush me off. When I asked for a supervisor she told me none were available, I then asked to speak to the president or CEO. She then told me how they were a very small company and that no one was available to speak with me. After I proceeded to tell her that there were not a very small company blah, blah, blah she transferred me to what I believe was a sales manager. As I started to tell him my tale of woe he stopped me and told me that he knew actually where my parts were. They had been accidentally shipped to CW in Henderson NV. He offered to ship them overnight but I explained that I need to be on the road that day.
Moral or maybe a couple of them. !, Be persistent with HWH as the lady who takes the incoming calls will do all she can to put you off. 2. It's not always CW's fault, although I do feel that they should have followed up on where the order was. I did try by HWH couldn't track under my name and I did not have CW PO number.
I commend the HWH sales manager for his honesty and not giving me some BS story.
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2005 Winnebago Vectra, 2013 Ford Edge AWD toad, Jim & Barb along with our two Westie co pilots Maggie and Buddy
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10-25-2014, 08:01 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
Posts: 27
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You can get feet and springs from ebay. Next time just go with them. They are listed by HWH part numbers.
HWH has a lot of info on their website including shop manuals and parts list. Check ebay first with the HWH part number.
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98 Endeavor DP, ISB275
RX300, Falcon II hitch, BB Vantage Select
VMSpc, 2002 Grey Ford Powerstroke
TST 507 w/ 10 Sensors
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