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06-18-2017, 03:39 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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2004 Itasca dash stereo wiring
Hi all,
I'm wanting to swap out the double din radio in my new to me itasca sunrise 34d on a Ford chassis.
I got the radio out to find the harness adapter I bought for a 2004 ford doesn't even come close... not to mention 2004 do doesn't match the new do radio I puchased, but that's another discussion.
Any thoughts on where to get a color coded wiring diagram? All I can find in the factory wiring diagrams is at the harness level, not the individual wires.
Here's what is in there now:
And this is the factory adapter harness.
Thanks in advance!
Matt
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06-18-2017, 06:30 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Fairfield, CA
Posts: 263
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This is a very good subject to bring up, thanks. I want to do the same thing(same radio) but what stumps me is which wires to to where as I want to keep the surround sound in tact. I am making this post so I can keep up with replies from more experienced members than me on this subject.
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06-18-2017, 07:16 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doorguy
This is a very good subject to bring up, thanks. I want to do the same thing(same radio) but what stumps me is which wires to to where as I want to keep the surround sound in tact. I am making this post so I can keep up with replies from more experienced members than me on this subject.
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be warned: even though the manual says "double din" it's not. You will have to cut the dash to fit. Not a huge deal, but you have to be "all in" on it!
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06-18-2017, 07:19 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 19
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I feel your pain, I bought a new dash stereo a while back but have not finish the install yet. Bought the same brand hoping for a easy switch, not so much.
You could contact Crutchfield see if they have a harness adaptor.
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06-18-2017, 07:21 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 813
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I too am researching the replacement of my Magnadyne M9900CDS receiver in my coach. It has a habit of shutting itself off and then I have to turn it 'on' again.
What I have learned so far is that this is a 1.5 DIN receiver head, and looking at the attached picture, a 2 DIN receiver would require significant modification of either moving the a/c ducts up or other major surgery.
Magnadyne has a replacement radio M3-LCD which (apparently) fits the box in the dash which holds the radio in place, and (may) have the same/similar wiring harness, but the face of the unit is a 2 DIN. In my coach, the face would then be lower than the bottom lip of the dash.
I will be calling Magnadyne in the near future to see what the exact dimensions are. But be aware, the dimensions of the head unit are different.
I would prefer another brand of a 2 DIN system, but it will require significant dash surgery.
I will stay tuned to this post.
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'07 Winnebago Journey 34H - CAT C7, Koni's, MCU's, SS Bell Crank, Safe-T-Plus
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06-18-2017, 07:28 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pusherman
I too am researching the replacement of my Magnadyne M9900CDS receiver in my coach. It has a habit of shutting itself off and then I have to turn it 'on' again.
What I have learned so far is that this is a 1.5 DIN receiver head, and looking at the attached picture, a 2 DIN receiver would require significant modification of either moving the a/c ducts up or other major surgery.
Magnadyne has a replacement radio M3-LCD which (apparently) fits the box in the dash which holds the radio in place, and (may) have the same/similar wiring harness, but the face of the unit is a 2 DIN. In my coach, the face would then be lower than the bottom lip of the dash.
I will be calling Magnadyne in the near future to see what the exact dimensions are. But be aware, the dimensions of the head unit are different.
I would prefer another brand of a 2 DIN system, but it will require significant dash surgery.
I will stay tuned to this post.
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Yeah, that would be a rough one... There are some single din with a screen that pops out, like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Premium-Sin...ed+touchscreen
I have no experience with them, but it's an option.
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06-18-2017, 07:42 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pusherman
I too am researching the replacement of my Magnadyne M9900CDS receiver in my coach. It has a habit of shutting itself off and then I have to turn it 'on' again.
What I have learned so far is that this is a 1.5 DIN receiver head, and looking at the attached picture, a 2 DIN receiver would require significant modification of either moving the a/c ducts up or other major surgery.
Magnadyne has a replacement radio M3-LCD which (apparently) fits the box in the dash which holds the radio in place, and (may) have the same/similar wiring harness, but the face of the unit is a 2 DIN. In my coach, the face would then be lower than the bottom lip of the dash.
I will be calling Magnadyne in the near future to see what the exact dimensions are. But be aware, the dimensions of the head unit are different.
I would prefer another brand of a 2 DIN system, but it will require significant dash surgery.
I will stay tuned to this post.
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One other idea for you: if you designed a spacer ring and had it 3d printed online you could have the radio stand off the thickness of the trim lip so the screen of the unit you posted could hang below. Print it in black and it might look pretty close to OEM.
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06-18-2017, 09:11 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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So, there's good news and bad news... the radio which for some reason I thought was Sony is actually magnadyne. On closers inspection, the wiring is marked right on the radio itself. Duh...
On the bad news side of the ledger, on closers inspection of the dash it appears the bracket for the existing radio is part of a large structural support. If I cut it the dashboard will become "Mr floppy".
So, I will be doing something like Mr pusher man and returning my radio I purchased.
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06-18-2017, 09:22 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
Posts: 1,748
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Cobalt and Doorguy,
Well, I kind-a just went through much of what you're thinking of. I didn't find any wiring diagrams. I got impatient. I just reasoned out what wire was what. It all came about due to me replacing the 100 lb. Sony Boat anchor 24" TV. I was not all too fond of the original Winne surround sound. It was/is non adjustable in terms of settings for each speaker and sub woofers.
So, out came the DHS unit that all that plugged into. All the wires for mine, including all the speaker wires, dash toggle switch control wires, Speaker selection wires for "TV/Radio speaker request, and more, all went down into the left front compartment.
Anyway, in the end, I've now separated the in-dash Magnadyne radio from the surround system and, installed some old "Bose" out door speakers in the top right and left upholstered corners of the top front cabinetry where, there were no speakers before. Those speakers are only 4" speakers but that Magnadyne sounds SERIOUSLY better than it ever did with the make-believe surround sound system.
I just determined which were the speaker wires eminating from the rear plug of that radio, extended all of them long enough to go up into the upper cabinets, right and left. I'll have to go out to my home made diagrams to be able to tell you which is right and left speaker wires, if anyones interested.
Scott
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06-18-2017, 09:48 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pusherman
I too am researching the replacement of my Magnadyne M9900CDS receiver in my coach. It has a habit of shutting itself off and then I have to turn it 'on' again.
What I have learned so far is that this is a 1.5 DIN receiver head, and looking at the attached picture, a 2 DIN receiver would require significant modification of either moving the a/c ducts up or other major surgery.
Magnadyne has a replacement radio M3-LCD which (apparently) fits the box in the dash which holds the radio in place, and (may) have the same/similar wiring harness, but the face of the unit is a 2 DIN. In my coach, the face would then be lower than the bottom lip of the dash.
I will be calling Magnadyne in the near future to see what the exact dimensions are. But be aware, the dimensions of the head unit are different.
I would prefer another brand of a 2 DIN system, but it will require significant dash surgery.
I will stay tuned to this post.
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Did you read the manual for that thing? The interface looks terrible. I was considering it until I read that... I'll be looking for something else now. I may just go with a simple single din radio since I will use my tablet for for nav and most music... All I really want is bluetooth capability.
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06-19-2017, 09:16 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2
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Replacement Radio
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pusherman
I too am researching the replacement of my Magnadyne M9900CDS receiver in my coach. It has a habit of shutting itself off and then I have to turn it 'on' again.
What I have learned so far is that this is a 1.5 DIN receiver head, and looking at the attached picture, a 2 DIN receiver would require significant modification of either moving the a/c ducts up or other major surgery.
Magnadyne has a replacement radio M3-LCD which (apparently) fits the box in the dash which holds the radio in place, and (may) have the same/similar wiring harness, but the face of the unit is a 2 DIN. In my coach, the face would then be lower than the bottom lip of the dash.
I will be calling Magnadyne in the near future to see what the exact dimensions are. But be aware, the dimensions of the head unit are different.
I would prefer another brand of a 2 DIN system, but it will require significant dash surgery.
I will stay tuned to this post.
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Don,
That is 1.5 din. There would be lots of work to your dash to get a 2"din. We make an Installation kit for Class A & C that would shrink down that footprint. For a single din. You have options. I will attach the requirements for M3. Also I build the wiring harnesses for plug and play any of our radios.
Thank You,
Mag Techs M3-LCD - M4-LCD Dashboard Space Requirements.pdf
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06-19-2017, 06:58 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagTechs
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that's really helpful! thank you!
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06-19-2017, 07:05 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 16
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After further searching and consideration I've decided to buy this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This will just plug into the aux inputs on the back of the radio and let me stream audio through it. I think it will work well for what I'm after.
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06-20-2017, 05:28 AM
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Just Trying to Help
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 555
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Matt (Cobalt)-
I also chose to add an input to the existing Magnadyne M9900CDS in my coach.
One of the nice things about owing a Winnebago is that they provide wiring diagrams and installation drawings for their coaches online, at this link. The ones for a 2004 Itasca Sunrise 34D are found here. Examples are the " Dash Radio Installation" and " Front End Wiring Installation."
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2008 Holiday Rambler Admiral 30PDD (Ford F-53 chassis)
2009 Honda Fit Sport
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06-20-2017, 01:42 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Santa Clarita, CA.
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My Magnadyne also randomly just shuts down and continued to do it until I started searching for a replacement. The first thing I did was locate a 1,5 DIN adapter ironically sold only by Magnadyne. So I have the adapter ready to go and of course the radio now decides to behave.. my big issue will be moving the Sirius module that's WAY under the dash.
As far as the harness, that's the least of my worries as I can locate everything I need by popping the speakers with AA battery
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'06 Itasca Meridian 34H, CAT C7/350
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06-20-2017, 06:35 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 813
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagTechs
Don,
That is 1.5 din. There would be lots of work to your dash to get a 2"din. We make an Installation kit for Class A & C that would shrink down that footprint. For a single din. You have options. I will attach the requirements for M3. Also I build the wiring harnesses for plug and play any of our radios.
Thank You,
Mag Techs Attachment 165723
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Thanks Mag Techs. The M3 is just not going to work on my dash. Howabout coming up with a true 1.5 DIN face as well?
Thanks for the comments from cobalt and others as well!
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'07 Winnebago Journey 34H - CAT C7, Koni's, MCU's, SS Bell Crank, Safe-T-Plus
'07 HHR Toad, SMI AFO, Blue OX
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06-21-2017, 09:40 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: MI
Posts: 51
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Hi,
I have a 2004 Itasca 33L. We installed a new radio last year now our cigarette lighter and the radio won't work. Does anyone know where the fuse is to try to fix this?
We located the fuse panel to the left of the steering wheel under the lift up control box. There is another in the engine compartment.
We cannot figure out which fuse is the one to the radio and cigarette lighter but the line tests no power.
Any ideas? Thank You, Lynne
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2004 Winnebago Itasca Sunova Blue Ox Tow Bar /2015 Equinox / 2018 White RAD Mini e-bike
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06-27-2017, 09:27 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Indian River, De
Posts: 369
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Radio replaced with Kenwood
I replaced my Magnedyne with a Kenwood single din, and it was a fairly simple job. I installed a black plastic filler plate, to close the gap left from the 1.5 din opening, and it came our decent. My Magnedyne factory radion still works perfectly (and I miss the weather radio feature), but I wanted a USB port for music stored on a mem-stick. (hey, if anyone is in need of a good oem Magnedyne...
Anyway, this is howit turned out, and I simply spliced the wires from the new radio, to a mating connector to the factory radio harness, so it would be a 2 minute swap back to OEM, if I ever wanted to do that. Now that the Kenwood has been in for about a year, I can say I probably will never need the Magnedyne.
http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=32639
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