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Old 08-10-2024, 09:57 AM   #1
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Change indoor lights to LED 2000 Journey 36G

I am trying to convert my lights in the living area to LED. I have 12 volts thru the switch, by the door, to the lights. I have removed the starters for the fluorescent lights. Installed the LED tubes but will not light up. I have tried other(new) tubes and still no light. I had one blink when I put it in but nothing from either light since then. Still have 12V at the lights, two light fixtures are parallelled wired to the switch. Neither work but have 12V. Supposed to not need a starter but I am wondering...
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Old 08-10-2024, 10:52 AM   #2
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Does it also have ground? Easy to forget that one!
Drawings show the yellow wires labeled NM as 12V and the white wire PM as ground and you do need both to make a full circuit!
But then LED are fussy in one way as the polarity has to be correct! Are these tubes that you can put them in the socket the wrong way? Perhaps try turning them over for battery and ground?
Not knowing how the bulbs are built leaves us guessing but maybe even try flipping them end for end might get it?

But first it has to have both battery and ground! But that gets tricky on this one!
I marked it up as I see it being done.
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It looks like ALL three bulbs have to be in and good to make ANY of them work!
Bat. in on red line from switch to first light, then orange out to other lights. That leaves no ground on first light until the other light has a complete path to connect back to ground!

I might start with checking the red path to and through the first galley light, Then look for it as it goes in the others and out on the blue line I've marked up! Those are not wire colors but what I picked to show the different uses!

Do you also have a "front ceiling lamp switch" as well, not shown on this sheet?
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This looks like a tricky one!
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Old 08-10-2024, 12:25 PM   #3
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Thanks. Tried turning the around from end to end. Thought I had done that before. They both work now. That should be in the instructions. Of course, I work electronics during my Army career. Why didn't I know that.
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Good show! I like folks who know that we are all prone to not knowing the right thing at the right time!
I've worked with a few guys who knew so much they killed poeple!

Tell anybody who questions it, the only people making mistakes are the ones who are working!!! The folks who never make a mistake are not much use!
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After I went back and looked at the light, I didn't have my glasses on, it had a + and - on it.
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Old 08-10-2024, 06:35 PM   #6
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Thanks. Tried turning the around from end to end. Thought I had done that before. They both work now. That should be in the instructions. Of course, I work electronics during my Army career. Why didn't I know that.
LED lights are actually a big diode that gets hot from resistance, the result is heat and light..
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I was going to do this a few years ago, but the led tunes were so expensive it was a lot cheaper to replace the whole fixture.
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Old 08-15-2024, 09:30 AM   #8
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I figured it out. Both lights are working. I had to do some wiring.
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