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07-30-2015, 01:21 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: clearfield, utah
Posts: 75
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M&G
Anyone using or have any pro/cons on this braking system?
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2014 Itasca Meridian 34B
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07-30-2015, 07:44 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Apex, NC
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It looks like a good system. I looked at it, but it wouldn't work on my towed because of the space it needs in front of the master cylinder. I went with the AF1 and am very happy with it.
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2010 Winnebago Journey Express 34Y
2010 Freightliner XCS (mfd 9/'09)
'07 Saturn Vue V6
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07-30-2015, 07:50 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Collinsville, Illinois
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Just installed M&G on my Chevy Equinox, used NSA Ready Brake on my previous toad, Chevy Tracker. Tracker was much lighter and easier to install the Ready Brake. Was not impressed. Did an awful lot of research and moved to the M&G. Very happy with the system, very easy hookup, nothing to install inside the vehicle, break away system is unique and compact. The installer stated that it is the most simple, yet best he has seen or installed. You can't go wrong if you are going to keep your toad for awhile.
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John & Diane with Winston our Cavalier
98 Monaco Dynasty, 36 SSlide
Pushed by a 2010 Chevy Equinox W/M&G Brake Sys
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07-30-2015, 07:53 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Madison, MS
Posts: 450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46490
Anyone using or have any pro/cons on this braking system?
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I don't have one, but I believe it is a simple and reliable toad brake system IF you have a coach with air. It can be used on gassers too, but a ping tank and compressor have to be added.
I strongly suggest it be professionally installed and calibrated, because bad things happen to the toad if not done correctly. As Chas posted it does not fit "all" toads because of space restrictions on some.
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2016 EC Aspire 42RBQ / 2014 CR-V
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07-30-2015, 07:57 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 16
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Have been using M&G braking system for 16 months and it has worked flawless. 30 seconds or less for hookup of air line to toad. I also know two others that use this braking system and they have had no issues.
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2016 Dutch Star 4369
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07-30-2015, 08:24 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 773
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Had this system installed on my rig 11 years ago - never a moments trouble.
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Tom
'04 Journey 36G - Cat C7
'04 Honda CR-V
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07-30-2015, 08:47 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
Posts: 1,748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46490
Anyone using or have any pro/cons on this braking system?
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Well Sir,
I just went through the installation of the M&G. Without a doubt, it's a piece of cake. Not sure what the other poster meant about calibration 'cause, there is none. The only "adjustment" that's needed, is during the install of the unit to the toad. There are two, independent adjustment shafts, that oppose each other, inside the unit.
You simply remove the fasteners that retain the master cylinder to the power brake unit. You move that master cylinder forward enough, to allow clearance for the M & G unit to be inserted in between the two original parts. But, since it's basically a "spacer" in between the two, those two shafts I mentioned need to be adjusted, independently, to make sure the contact points are as close as possible so that when the installation is complete, you really don't know the M & G unit is installed.
Another words, you don't want to feel it's been added.
As for how and where to install it in the coaches air brake system, a bit of care must be taken but, it's not hard at all. If you're thinking of doing it yourself, PM me and I'd be glad to assist or, simply call M & G and, their tech will walk you through it too.
Scott
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2004 ITASCA HORIZON 36GD, 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Toad '08 GL 1800 Gold Wing
Retired-29.5 yrs, SDFD, Ham - KI6OND
Me, Karla and the Sophie character, (mini Schnauzer)
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07-30-2015, 09:53 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 126
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I've been using the M&G brake system since purchase of my Meridian in 2003 - first on a 2002 Saturn, and (after swapping the cylinder) later on my 2003 Jeep Liberty. Over 90K miles without a problem.
After installation I realized that one important component is missing – that of an indicator system to notify the coach driver that the toad brake system is functioning. A system is needed to see when air is being applied to the toad’s brakes and to indicate if the breakaway has been tripped, setting the brakes. Additionally, a warning system is needed to indicate when the toad brakes are not operating due to a disconnected or leaking hose. I corrected this deficiency by adding an air pressure switch at the pneumatic actuator, and a warning light in the motorhome. Now, when air pressure is applied to the toad brake system, for normal braking or emergency breakaway, the cockpit indicator illuminates.
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RedT, US Air Force Retired
2004 Itasca Meridian VMSpc, Pressure Pro TPMS
2003 Jeep Liberty M&G Brakes System
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07-31-2015, 08:47 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 178
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Additionally, a warning system is needed to indicate when the toad brakes are not operating due to a disconnected or leaking hose. I corrected this deficiency by adding an air pressure switch at the pneumatic actuator, and a warning light in the motorhome. Now, when air pressure is applied to the toad brake system, for normal braking or emergency breakaway, the cockpit indicator illuminates.
I was wondering about that on how that works. Now I know!
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07 Meridian 34H 350 Cat
2010 Subaru Forester Tow
Home Port is Kingman,Az
KA7UYZ NRA Endowment Member Retired Fire Service
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07-31-2015, 09:02 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Western Montana on the Divide
Posts: 22
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I've been using this system for over 6 years and it has been flawless. I have installed this on two different toads myself without issue. I can have my system hooked up in 5 seconds with no problems. I like the fact it has no electronics to go south, I don't have to kneel down to get it hooked up, especially if the weather is nasty. It's proportional with the coach brakes and won't apply the toad brakes on long downhill grades while using the exhaust brake. There is also an optional brake away feature available that works in conjunction with this system.
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Bob Retired Army Traveling alone now.
2008 Camelot 40 PDQ 4 slides ISL400 towing a 2016 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 Quadcab
Western MT in summer, AZ, NV in winter
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07-31-2015, 09:04 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 111
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Great responses with fantastic photos. I have used the M&G on my 2000 Horizon and 1999 Tahoe since 2000 (15 years). After the install I had to replace the rotors on my Tahoe then after a short time the rotors needed to be replaced again. I called M&G and they sold me an adjustable pressure regulator. That fixed the problem. Bottom line a great product and I would buy again.
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07-31-2015, 09:08 AM
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2018 Winniebago Vista 27
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Bridge City Texas
Posts: 14
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Had a 2nd unit installed in Athens Texas on our new 2015 Jeep Wrangler toad. Works great. The one on our old toad worked great also. We have used M&G for over a year now with no issues.
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2018 27PE Vista, 2015 Jeep Wrangler toad
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07-31-2015, 09:21 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: michigan-tip of the mitt
Posts: 28
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M&G on 2nd toad and it works great. A very simple design with NO electrical connections to break down. I had our 1st one installed at the factory as it was a bit of harder fit, 2000 Chevy Tracker with the V-6. I just installed one on a Chevy Silverado. Very easy if you like to use tools. $180 rebate when the old unit (from the Tracker) was returned to M&G.
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