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09-13-2016, 06:18 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 9
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2015 27N Vista, has recurring problems...help
Here it is 45 minutes from the forum and if we can stay out of the casino long enough here in Reno,I just might be here to chat.Formerly a 2008 24J View, now in a 2015 27N Vista,factory ordered,which still has recurring problems to this day,near 23 months on.
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09-14-2016, 10:50 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 56
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Oh you too Donkey
Donkey,
what problems are you having? We have a 15 35F and just left factory 2 weeks ago, and need to go back once parts in.
I think there must have been a span of time their Vistas were mfg in 15 with everyone on vacation.
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2015 Vista 35F
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09-21-2016, 09:24 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 9
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Sorry for the week to reply,was a holiday with a visit to friends in Cal.When delivered,the Vista looked like it was built on a Monday after a long weekend.With over 24 listed deficiencies,some merely cosmetic,even if the cosmetic was the microwave unit coaxed into place with a ball pean hammer.
The worst issue is the basement compartments flooding when driven in rain.The entry stairs only work intermittently at their own choosing.Where we bought the Winnie from had three attempts to fix the problems.They could not correct the water problem,and have since quit the business and have closed their doors.Winnebago then suggested we use a dealership 100 miles away in Washington state for them to try to correct the issues.
The Vista had by then in the shop for 7 of it's 10 months of age.One last road trip to see if the e water was still an issue,hard to judge in last years heat in the west coast and Nevada.On the way back to the Washington dealer with a list of 14 more issues,we encountered rain and experienced another flood.This was last October of 2015.
Having little satisfaction with dealing with Steve Mary(customer relations) at Winnebago ,Iowa,we decided to take a lawyer to get satisfaction from the company,who have done little about doing the right thing.A lack of communication and months of inaction from both Winnebago and our near useless lawyer,in March of 2015 Winnebago finally offers to fix it at their new facility in Junction City Ore. should we like to drive it the 400 miles to the service.
We say they may pick it up repair and deliver it back to their closest dealer nearest to us.This meant another border crossing from Canada(home) to Washington 100 miles away.Another month for service before delivery back to us at the cost of over $9000.00 in repairs,covered by Winnebago.Upon delivery,the first thing that failed was the entry steps at the dealership.
Rather than send it back to Junction City,we've kept the RV to at least try another road trip.Clear skies and hot weather won't let us know if the flooding is no longer an issue,but here we sit in Junction City today and overnight as well to have the steps attended to.It has been an overly frustrating 2 years of grief with little concern to us from Winnebago.
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09-21-2016, 09:44 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Manhattan, Kansas USA
Posts: 1,389
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Spend $ 100 on plastic storage tubs for items you put in the passenger side basement compartments, that is your short term fix. You may never get a long term fix from Winnebago, I am sorry to say. However, that DIY or dealer changes will minimize the problem and eventually maybe totally resolve it, read on.
This said, I have not yet looked at a new Vista LX 27N to stare and compare to see if Winnebago has changed anything that we could use as a clue on what the problem is on our 2015 Vista 27Ns. But I plan to do that soon.
I have been fighting the same passenger side basement compartment water intrusion issues and here is what I have found:
- There was water entry in the side walls next to the rear wheels, top wall to floor seam area is the worst. Resolvable with tape and sealant application.
- The back wall cable entry hole for the inverter may not have been water sealed. Resolvable with tape and sealant application.
- The basement compartment with the fresh water tank may get water not only from water intrusion from the wheel area, but also the PEX crimp connections where a PEX crimp was used on non-PEX flexible tubing may be slow leaking. Resolvable by cutting them out and replacing them with Stainless Steel Hose Clamps.
- The door to door opening cut into the wall interface is leaking water when rolling down the road in rain. Adjusting the latches to make the doors close tigher and compress the seal gasket more did not stop the water entry. I have not figured out to fix this, hopefully looking at a 2017 Vista 27N will give me a clue, assuming that Winnebago has made a design change given all the water intrusion problems.
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Randy - Manhattan, Kansas
2015 Vista 27N
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid
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09-23-2016, 09:32 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodland, Washington
Posts: 59
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No leaks anywhere in our 2016 Vista 27LX. Bought in Portland Oregon in May and now 7,000 miles later we are in Carrabelle, Florida with Ford Chassis being the only major issue. Minor issues we're handled in Forest City, Iowa. Cheap drawer slides and toilet seat are my only issues at this time
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09-23-2016, 10:11 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 141
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Steps on our 2012 Vista 30T started going in and out on their own. I found a near broken wire on the magnetic switch-it was too short for the tight bend and shorting out. I lenghtened the wire and left the connector off-attached wire directly to the screw on switch to relieve strain. No problem since and have put 2000 mi on coach since. Good luck
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Allen & Linda; 2012 Winnebago Vista 30T, Ford 6.8 V-10, Safety-Steer, Roadmaster front and rear sway bars, 5-star tune
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01-04-2017, 09:01 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Spokane wa
Posts: 8
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Well let me add to this 2016 vista lx 27n lots of issues have been fixed and I'm mean lots .it would Be a long Story . So i too have water intrusion... two months ago i took the coach in for some Warenty repairs when i dumped the tanks i hooked up to the black tank flusher and water was spraying all over behind the connection.
so i added that to the list.
When i got back in the coach there was water all over the bathroom floor and under the sink; thats where the flush tank hose connects and that is where my outside drivers side compartment was getting water from .
now on to the passenger side storage bay. I actually got inside and shut the door while my buddy shined a very bright light all over the place (it was dark out )the only place i saw light coming in was the weep holes on the door and a seam that joined at the bottom. i had already sealed everything else.
Haven't got it back from the dealer yet so I'm going to seal those holes this spring and see if that works .
Donkey-- Sorry your coach has had so many issues we too have had way to many issues .i was just talking dw about your steps I'm not sure but i will mention if you are parked up on jacks or not the switch for the steps to stay out while you are parked works good and is a nice feature so your steps don't go in and out everytime you open the door. But no matter what, when you start the motor the steps will retract-- this is a safety feature so you don't drive off with the steps out. don't know if this helps just saying .
i don't know where you live in canada but Rand R RV in Spokane might be closer for you. i bought it from them and have been pretty pissed off since day one but they have been good about fixing everything.
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2016 Vista LX 27N
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01-05-2017, 01:43 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodland, Washington
Posts: 59
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Still no water intrusion issues on our 2016 Vista LX 27N. But lost coach for 3 weeks due to check engine light and bad EGR valve. No valve in stock. Also found leaking differential pinion seal.
Slides scare me every time I open and close them. Biggest problem now is Squirrel intrusion. RV is now sitting at Camping World in Tallahassee, Florida to find out why all three cameras quit and to take care of the Transfer Switch Recall. Dealer found that multiple squirrels have made nests in the dash and chewed most of the wiring including the main harness and heat ducts.
Have not found how they got in but found large hole and a nest behind the furnace grill in the hall. These holes are for plumbing and wiring and not filled in at the factory. Repair estimate is now over $4,000 and sure to go higher once the dash is removed.
My other problem is National General Insurance may not cover because it was not"sudden" damage. I feel the adjuster has already made up her mind before even receiving pictures from the dealer. Going ahead with repairs whether they help or not.
On the way down from Seattle we stopped at the factory for repairs that took two weeks. Should have kept our 2013 Itasca Navion IQ 24G. Will let you know what the adjuster decides
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01-05-2017, 11:19 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 9
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Sorry to hear of Honwing's problems with rodents. I had rats chew wiring on my vista 27J. I found out too late all rodents love to chew the insulation on wiring when given a chance. I have since learned the best deterrent for keeping the varmints away for your unit when stored for little or long periods is to place dryer sheets in the engine compartment, storage compartments and wheel wells. these sheets are 'toxic' to smell and have kept both my rigs free of little destructive critters.Get a box of any brand (I use regular Bounce brand) and you will find it the cheapest, most effective repellant available.
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01-06-2017, 08:09 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodland, Washington
Posts: 59
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Does anyone know if the doghouse needs to be removed in order to change the EGR valve? Cant find where squirrels gained access to the inside of the coach. Sitting three weeks waiting for parts with doghouse removed???????? Just trying to figure out how this happened after years of RV ownership. Does Bounce work with squirrels or just mice and Rats?
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01-06-2017, 10:49 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 9
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Bounce will work on squirrels as well.Heck, it even keeps me away.
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01-08-2017, 08:42 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodland, Washington
Posts: 59
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Thank You. When I get it back I will for sure add them but not till everything is removed or replaced( my wife's idea) and thoroughly checked for entry points and sealed. Waiting on National General decision on coverage now.
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09-27-2018, 06:29 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1
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We’ve had nothing but problems with our 2017 VistaLX since the day we picked it up brand-new from the dealer. What a disappointment. We used to rave about Winnebago. And we had this one special ordered, because we liked our 2006 Aspect so much.
Based on our experience with our new 2017 model, I cannot in good conscience ever recommend Winnebago to anyone again, nor will I ever purchase one again. Day 1- air conditioning did not work, jacks indicated they were coming down while driving on interstate & then did not work at campground, jacks replaced 3 times. Emergency window could not be opened, shower basin had 5 scratch marks covered up by sticky caulking which they blamed on us.
ATS panel almost caught on fire bc wires were overlapped which they also blamed on us (even though there was a recall). Skylight leaked bc they did not properly seal, steps sound like they are falling apart when they pop out (gotta deal with that next). Engine panel literally glued on & almost fell off during travel today, bathroom skylight had fingerprints & debris inside which made it look juvenile for spending over $100K....expect more.
Side view mirror was so loose it spun around while driving 1st day, & all kinds of cosmetic issues. The list goes on & on, but I think the point has been made. So disappointed in Winnebago. Trying to get what we can out of our Vista bc we’ve invested a lot of time & money in it at this point & Winnebago nor the dealer care. But we r NOT going to be a return customer.
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09-27-2018, 08:36 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bettendorf Iowa
Posts: 203
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Oh boy, we just traded our trusty Winnie 26 he for a Winnie 29ve...have not had it out camping yet but the folks at Harrison RV Ia. personally delivered it 165 miles away!..and drives very nicely...DW and I have looked it over pretty good, loaded it up with all our junk, adjusted a few little items but until we hook it up and live in it at the campsite we are hoping for no big suprises!.. Virgin trip is from Iowa to Missouri next month and then on to Florida in December for the winter..
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09-28-2018, 10:58 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 9
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So sorry to hear of your grief ,DigBer123. We factory ordered a new 2015 27N Vista and when it arrived it had no less than 30 deficiencies. It also took a year and a half plus a lawyer to fight Winnebago to step up and correct all the problems. The biggest of which was the basement compartments flooding when driving in rainy conditions, a known problem to Winnebago. No apology from the company nor any restitution for loss of enjoyment.
There will be no recommendation from us for anyone to buy from that company because of their company policy to their customer. Our next RV will be a diesel pusher, more than likely a Tiffin model. We know full well there is no greener grass elsewhere as well as finding a perfect world, given that, our best recommendation is buy used for what you want. As bad as it sounds let someone else suffer the repair and depreciation from a new unit which they will eventually sell.
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