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07-25-2013, 02:51 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Orem, UT
Posts: 4
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Sightseer 35J towing Jeep Wrangler
Hi All, I have purchased a 2010 Sightseer 35J(replaced 2005 Meridian) and wish to tow a 2013 Jeep Wrangler. The MH has a measured hitch receiver height of 27 inches from the ground and the Jeep hitch attachments(Demco) are 18.75 inches or nearly an 8 inch difference. I have read that the dinghy can be lower than the RV but no more than 4 inches. Therefore do I need a 4 inch drop down hitch? Have any readers towed using a drop down hitch? What are the issues involved?
MODO
2010 Sightseer 35J
2013 Jeep Wrangler
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07-25-2013, 03:27 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 227
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Yes, a drop is common. No particular problems in doing so. See your tow bar vendor for their recommendation as to allowable inches from level.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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07-25-2013, 03:32 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 307
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I use a 10" and have to be careful and avoid certain driveways. You shouldn't have any issues with a 4" especially with the height
of your receiver.
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Cliff,Tallulah and Buddy ( 1999-2012 )
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07-25-2013, 05:03 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Charlton, Ma
Posts: 50
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I have an Adventurer 35A towing a 2010 Ford Escape. The difference was also 8". I bought an 8" receiver drop from my dealer to fit my Blue Ox and have been towing for two years with no issues.
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07-25-2013, 06:01 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 127
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Winnebago recommends a maximum 4" drop. Per Winnebago, the issue is torque on the receiver: the larger the drop, the greater the torque because the lever is longer. I didn't get an exact formula out of them, but the tow capacity is reduced with drops larger than 4". I use a 6" drop for my Suzuki XL7 and don't worry about the reduced rating because the 'zuki is well under 5,000 lbs. I have dragged my tail a couple of times in driveways, so that's another factor in favor if smaller drops.
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2009 Winnebago Sightseer 35J
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07-26-2013, 07:31 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: NJ
Posts: 28
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We also tow with a drop hitch. Was told that you want the equality between rig and Jeep to be no more than 2" difference (with less being better).
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2004 Jeep Wrangler Sport
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07-26-2013, 08:02 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 307
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I believe Blue Ox recommends a 4" max.
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Cliff,Tallulah and Buddy ( 1999-2012 )
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07-29-2013, 05:56 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Orem, UT
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Hi All, Thank you for the helpful replies. I will be using the DEMCO recommended 6" drop hitch with my DEMCO hitch and base plate.
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MODO in UT
2016 Thor Siesta Sprinter 24SR
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07-30-2013, 06:58 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 84
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I use a 4 inch drop on my Sightseer 33C and have scraped a few times on poorly designed driveways. It's very rare that I do scrape. The 4 inch drop allows my tow bar (ReadyBrute) to be almost perfectly level.
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Dave and Holly
2011 Winnebago Sightseer 33c with a 2011 Honda CRV behind.
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08-03-2013, 09:40 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 14
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Lift the Jeep Of course I don't have quite the distance but I did a lift on the Jeep and bigger tires to make my distance level recommended by the tow bar manufacturer and Winnebago.
I know you already have a solution just want to be funny.
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2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
ReadyBrute Elite w/Surge Braking System Tow Bar
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08-03-2013, 10:36 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,080
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mo
Winnebago recommends a maximum 4" drop. Per Winnebago, the issue is torque on the receiver: the larger the drop, the greater the torque because the lever is longer. I didn't get an exact formula out of them, but the tow capacity is reduced with drops larger than 4". I use a 6" drop for my Suzuki XL7 and don't worry about the reduced rating because the 'zuki is well under 5,000 lbs. I have dragged my tail a couple of times in driveways, so that's another factor in favor if smaller drops.
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I spoke to a Winnebago customer service rep at length about the same situation with our 2013 Adventurer and Jeep Wrangler. Through the course of the conversation admitted this was a common problem with the motorhomes built on the latest generation F53 chassis.
In an effort to reslove the problem Winnebago is now manufacturing their own hitches. According to the rep they are considerably stronger than the ones they had been purchasing. In addition they no longer use lighter frame extensions at the rear (at least on the Adventurer) but rather lengthen the frame by adding a section of the same size and strength material just behind the transmission.
Before our conversation ended he agreed that a 6" drop receiver would be acceptable on the 2013 F53 frame when the towed vehicle is equiped with a non-surge style braking system. He also said to expect to see the official recommendation change from a 4" drop to a 6" drop in the very near future.
We're using a 6" drop reciever rated for 10,000 lbs and a Roadmaster Brakemaster 9060 braking system to tow our 04 Jeep Wrangler which weighs in at a little less than 3,800 lbs. After about 5000 miles of towing all is well.
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Hikerdogs
2013 Adventurer 32H
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08-08-2013, 03:28 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CbtEngr
Lift the Jeep Of course I don't have quite the distance but I did a lift on the Jeep and bigger tires to make my distance level recommended by the tow bar manufacturer and Winnebago.
I know you already have a solution just want to be funny.
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Lift the Jeep, replace the stock front bumper or mount the tow bar up higher! I like the answer above best, "lift the Jeep!"
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08-09-2013, 01:05 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 214
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You got it right. Jeeps were made to be modded. I have a 3.5" lift and 33" tires on my CJ7 and use an a-frame tow bar that attaches to shackle points on the middle of a rock style bumper. I actually had to flip the hitch up to get an extra 3" of height to level it out.
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Ole and Anne Anderson, Highland, Michigan
'02 Adventurer 32V, Ford F-53, ours since 4/08,Goodyears, Konis, SeeLevel, CHF
'84 CJ-7 , 5.3 Chevy, 3" lift, 33's, Detroit Locker, Fiberglas tub, winch, hi-lift
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