2020 View 24V Boost Switch?

[eweb101]

Does anyone know if the 2020 View has a battery boost switch that would let me start the main engine from the house battery.


The manual says there is one, but doesn't say where it is.

[Winterbagoal]

Page 10-3 in the downloadable OM. It's on the dash.
Not where I would expect to find that info.

[eweb101]

Originally Posted by Winterbagoal

Page 10-3 in the downloadable OM. It's on the dash.
Not where I would expect to find that info.

If it's on the dash, it's well-hidden.

[crah]

For 2020 they removed that function completely. Not sure why Winn did that.

[eweb101]

Originally Posted by crah

For 2020 they removed that function completely. Not sure why Winn did that.

Thank you. I can stop looking for it now


Weird that they removed it. It did seem like a useful feature.



I should probably buy a pair of jumper cables anyway so I could use those to start from the house battery if I ever need to.

[Winterbagoal]

Sorry about the misleading info but it was mentioned in the OM. I always carry booster cables that are long enough to self boost from coach to chassis battery locations. JIC.

[eweb101]

Originally Posted by Winterbagoal

Sorry about the misleading info but it was mentioned in the OM. I always carry booster cables that are long enough to self boost from coach to chassis battery locations. JIC.

I found two places where it's mentioned in the manual and three people at the RV dealership I bought it from told me there is one. It was driving me a little crazy looking for it.

[crah]

Originally Posted by eweb101

I found two places where it's mentioned in the manual and three people at the RV dealership I bought it from told me there is one. It was driving me a little crazy looking for it.

Everyone told me the same. I had to call Winnebago and they said not for the 2020 View. They removed the boost button and the sewer hose storage for 2020. Not sure if any other features were removed.

Odd for sure.

[rprochnow]

You can install a Trik L Start (or Amp L Start for house lithium batteries) to charge the engine battery from the house batteries/solar.

For our 2021 View, we had the Amp L Start installed by Lichtsinn before we picked up the RV.

[ozon8r]

I have a 2020 Navion and installed the Amp-L-Start in about 30 minutes to resolve the lack of a booster on the newer models, choosing the Amp-L over the Trk-L because of the option to adjust start and stop charging if LiFePO4 batteries are installed (I have LiFePO4 aftermarket house batteries). It’s a fairly straight forward install and not too complicated. Another option is to carry a portable battery booster.

[Lmonger]

Chassis battery can be charged through lighter outlet middle console near bottom. I use a Harbor Freight HF Charger set for AGM.

[DKDaniels]

Great reason to go to Lichtsinn for they have a very long walk through. I went with a write up from another dealer and my sales rep chuckled showing me a few items thats not included in the 2020 View. Unable to turn the backup camera on or outside speakers.
someone wrote up the difference of a 2019 Vs 2020. there were a couple items that were on a 2019 but I'll find it and post it for you. I found it interesting.
Winnebago Dan 20J

[DKDaniels]

Danny I can’t remember who posted this recently but it is the most thorough
comparisonI’ve ever seen. That convinced me to get a 2020 Vs 2019! 20 ND:


2020 (2019 MB Chassis) Navion & View Improvements over 2019 (2018 MB Chassis)


New Chassis Features:


Active brake assist plus
Wet wiper system
Active lane keeping assist
Rain sensor
Leather wrapped steering wheel
Distance regulator Distronic plus (adaptive cruise control)
Navigation
Intelligent navigation
Free map data updates for 3 years
Satellite radio
10.25” MBUX Infotainment system
Traffic sign assist
Upgraded instrument cluster display
Acoustic package
Auto high beam assist
LED high performance headlights
Fog lamps with cornering light function
Chrome trim radiator grille
Heated cab seats
Cab seats lumbar support
Power adjustable cab seats with memory feature
Folding parking brake lever
Swivel cab seats
Reinforced front axle
Raised rear suspension
Multi-function steering wheel
12V socket in the instrument panel
Two sets of additional keys
Power and heated exterior mirrors
Rear view mirror
Automatic climate control
Attention assist
Premium overhead front control panel
Continental tires
Winnebago Product Improvements
Exterior
Standard Group 31 batteries. 24% increased standard battery power provides
extended battery use.
Optional Group 31 lithium batteries. Extend battery use doubles the usable
battery power.
Roof wiring access port allows easy routing of wiring for aftermarket add
of exterior antenna for devices.
New Euro-style dual latching entrance door. This solid new door features
dual latching points to improve sealing and reduce wind noise. Also
included are an integrated door window shade and a convenient storage bins.
New aerodynamic front cap with curved tear drop windows on each side. The
front cap has spray-in foam insulation against noise and temperature and
features Winnebago; exclusive SuperShell sleeper deck design. SuperShell
provides increased thermal comfort and reduced sound levels.
New backwall rear trim and taillight design enhances the styling and
improves fit and finish.
New armless awning eliminates the legs on the sidewall for a clean,
attractive appearance. The awning also features, lighting, Bluetooth
control, and auto-retraction in wind.
New wider cab entry steps feature loops on each end to allow for attachment
of pet leashes or bikes, etc.
Generator auto transfer switch is a now standard.
New rotocast storage compartments are easy to clean and maintain. On the
24D and the 24J, there is new cross-coach storage to store long items, such
as paddles or fishing poles.
Larger, 41 gallon holding tanks extend camping time.
A patio side LP accessory connection is a new standard feature.
Aluminum wheels and 2-point stabilizer jacks are now standard.
Black holding tank flush system and heated holding tank pads are now standard.
The Truma AquaGo comfort plus water heater is now standard.
Interior
New modern Walnut interior with high gloss white upper cabinet doors
provide a modern, stylish interior.
A standard 2,000 W inverter replaces the 1,000 W inverter. The microwave,
TV (s), and all outlets are hooked to the inverter.
Front bunk 110V, 12V, and USB outlets.
Dining area 110V, 12V, and USB outlets.
Bedroom area 110V, 12V (24J and 24V), and USB outlets.
New ceiling lights reduce power usage to extend battery usage time.
Stainless steel appliances give a modern aesthetic appeal.
Galley area features a larger and deeper double bowl sink with bamboo
cutting board sink covers.
A new Hybrid induction and LP cooktop provides cooking flexibility.
A larger, stainless steel, 12V compressor refrigerator provides more
storage space for refrigerated items.
The galley drawers feature a soft close drawer guide for a quiet upscale
residential feel.
All overheads, doors and drawers feature positive latching, securing
contents when traveling
Accent lighting throughout.
All overhead cabinets
Galley front and side toe kicks
Lavatory cabinet toe kick
Lighted galley drawers provide improved drawer visibility and provide an
upscale residential look.
Galley overhead provides a built-in and easily accessible paper towel holder.
Bath medicine cabinet not only provides roomy storage, but also includes
built-in space to conveniently house a box of tissues.
A larger 32” lounge TV is standard vs. a 28” TV.
The bedroom TV is now standard (24J and 24V).


24D unique improvements:
New U-shaped dinette with footrests replaces the traditional booth dinette.
6-inch longer slide room provided room for the U-shaped dinette with seat
extensions.
New Murphy bed support leg design.
24J unique improvements:
10-inch deeper slide room provides increased interior lounge space for a
more open interior.


A new 4-drawer pantry has been added.
New “Anything Keeper” storage basket is included in the bedroom.
Deluxe sleep system with Froli springs is standard.


24V unique improvements:
Redesigned galley is larger than in 2019.
New “Anything Keeper” storage basket is included in the bedroom.
Standard deluxe sleep system with Froli springs.

[NeilV]

Originally Posted by crah

For 2020 they removed that function completely. Not sure why Winn did that.

With the newer coaches now charging the engine battery with the converter perhaps they felt is was no longer needed. Most often you only needed it when you forgot to switch the radio power button from engine to house and ran the start battery down however now with the converter taking care of that for you its a bit of a moot feature too unless you dry camping and run all the batteries flat but then a boost switch would not help then either.

I also am not sure how that works with how they implemented the lithium house battery option they added so there could have been some concerns there about linking the two systems together with the boost switch and giving the engines high amperage lead acid charging system a direct connection to the Lithium batteries.

[crah]

Originally Posted by NeilV

With the newer coaches now charging the engine battery with the converter perhaps they felt is was no longer needed. Most often you only needed it when you forgot to switch the radio power button from engine to house and ran the start battery down however now with the converter taking care of that for you its a bit of a moot feature too unless you dry camping and run all the batteries flat but then a boost switch would not help then either.

I also am not sure how that works with how they implemented the lithium house battery option they added so there could have been some concerns there about linking the two systems together with the boost switch and giving the engines high amperage lead acid charging system a direct connection to the Lithium batteries.

The new Views do not charge the engine battery from the converter or any other method.

Not sure why the lithium battery would matter on a boost switch.

[DKDaniels]

Only on the stock batteries for it's not recommended if one upgraded to the lithium batteries.
Winnebago Dan 20J

[rprochnow]

Lichtsinn installed an Amp-L-Start in our 21D to keep to keep the engine battery charged from the coach's lithium batteries.

While in storage, we have the coach connected to 110, keeping the lithium batteries charged.

[NeilV]

Originally Posted by crah

The new Views do not charge the engine battery from the converter or any other method.

Not sure why the lithium battery would matter on a boost switch.

When on boost once the engine starts if you don't release the boost button fast enough or if the relay sticks and does not release your engine alternator could be bypassing the smart charger required for the safe charging of Lithium batteries and potentially start pumping a 14+ volt 100+ amp charge at them which can cause sprites in the Lithium cells leading to a thermal runaway situation. Lithium thermal runaway is very hard to stop even if you totally submerge the batteries in water with some manufacturers recommending that you just move the vehicle/batteries/device away from structures and other vehicles and let them burn themselves out rather than trying to fight the fire. Yes a more sophisticated system could be designed and installed in the boost circuit to prevent that however that would add additional cost to the system.

Some people who had coaches manufactured before they made it the more standard practice to link the converter to also charge the engine battery (2005 or was it 2015?) would tape or otherwise setup something to hold the boost switch down before going to bed so that the converter could top off the engine battery charge by the time they left the next morning.

Sorry to hear the new View does not adhere to this now fairly standard practice however with the potential for it to have a mixed system of incompatible battery types with different charging specifications along with the cost factors involved to put in a 110% foolproof system its somewhat understandable. A coach builder has to do a bit more to pass muster and make it safe than a hobbyist who is adding lithium batteries to his own personal coach,

Perhaps as coach builders gain more experience with integrating Lithium house batteries with lead acid starting battery systems they will put the boost feature back or provide other means to ensure both battery systems will get charged without having to install aftermarket devices. By that time though Lithium as we know may already have been replaced by something else such as Carbon Fiber Batteries.

[rprochnow]

The new Views come standard with 200W of solar panels plus there's an option to have lithium batteries.

Would be reasonable for Winnebago to add something like the Amp-L-Start as an option or a standard feature, to provide charging of the engine battery.

Would also be reasonable for Winnebago to add a surge protector as an option, or make that standard.

Both of these features are likely added often after purchase...

[ahamor01]

I read somewhere that MB doesn’t allow any connection between the coach and the 2019 chassis electrical system. They are worried about interference with the new safety features