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01-30-2013, 11:40 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
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Thanks John...... I can see both directions are the same no matter which inverter is installed... I suppose it will boil down to performance, like when anyone compares a Ford to a Chevy.....
I see John your in North Dakota..... Stay warm....
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01-31-2013, 01:45 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 504
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Hello LeeB,
I’m not too sure you need to worry about the statement ‘then will continue
“trickle” charging at a very low amperage rate’ if you leave the original batteries installed. What this means is that the batteries are under a ‘float’ condition. That’s good. Would a good AGM battery bank be better, you bet. If that is what you are going to install, then I would strongly suggest installing a 3 stage battery charger that has settings for AGM batteries. Normally, all batteries will self discharge. That is what is meant by “trickle” charging at a very low amperage rate. It’s just that AGM’s self discharge at a much lower rate. And usually need a higher charging voltage. The forth stage is equalization which isn’t every applied to AGM’s.
The advantage of a three stage, are increased amperage to restore full charge but the last stage is still float. It just takes a lot longer to top off the batteries when float is all you have.
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01-31-2013, 04:34 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grtharris
Listed below are the specifications that we have available on this charger. This is in fact a 3 stage charger, the bulk, absorption, and float. For further information on this charger you would need to contact Winnebago.
VOLTAGE LIMITS
WITHOUT LOAD: 13.6 VDC MIN / 14.1 VDC MAS
WITH LOAD OF 55 AMPS DC: 12.9 VDC MIN / 13.1 VDC MAX
Just to check I send a note to my friend at Winnebago.
"According to our Electrical Engineer, it is only a single stag charger"
I like your choice of charger, I will probably do the same when we get our Adventurer this summer.
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I'm sorry for falling off the cabbage truck, but this reply is confusing to me. Are you saying that Schumacher, the maker of the converter/charger that Winnebago now uses is really a there stage charger, but your frind at Winnebago is saying that it is a single stage charger? I know that the manual talks about the charging current chaging based on the battery's state of charge, but the Winnebago manual states in a couple places not to leave the coach plugged in.
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01-31-2013, 08:35 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Skiatook, OK
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DeWat, Sorry for the confusion, I have done a lot or research on this converter/charger and I was sure it was a single stage charger. So when the guy at Schumacher just gave me max and min voltages even though he stated it was 3 stages I had my doubts. So I emailed my contact at Winnebago an sure enough it's just a single stage charger and that's why Winnebago said not to leave the coach plugged in.
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01-31-2013, 09:13 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buxton, North Dakota
Posts: 1,037
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeB
Thanks John...... I can see both directions are the same no matter which inverter is installed... I suppose it will boil down to performance, like when anyone compares a Ford to a Chevy.....
I see John your in North Dakota..... Stay warm....
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We left North Dakota two weeks ago. We are boondocking in the desert 20 miles north of Yuma on the Colorado river. Mid 70's today.
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01-31-2013, 12:21 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central Valley, California
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Hilley
We left North Dakota two weeks ago. We are boondocking in the desert 20 miles north of Yuma on the Colorado river. Mid 70's today.
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Good Timing......
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01-31-2013, 06:00 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grtharris
DeWat, Sorry for the confusion, I have done a lot or research on this converter/charger and I was sure it was a single stage charger. So when the guy at Schumacher just gave me max and min voltages even though he stated it was 3 stages I had my doubts. So I emailed my contact at Winnebago an sure enough it's just a single stage charger and that's why Winnebago said not to leave the coach plugged in.
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Thanks much! I had a live conversation with Winnebago today. Because of the new chargers/converters, they are not going to go "on record" and give any official nods, but said that I should be okay as long as I monitored my batteries regularly. They also told me that when I turn the house switch off, the batteries do not charge, so if I really get concerned, just turning the house off is a lot easier than unplugging... especially since everything inside will still work direct from the shoreline.
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