Micro Minni Tires

[TomC]

I am a new member and this is my first post, I hope I am posting in the correct area. I just purchased a 2020 Micro Minni 2108 FBS. My question is how reliable are the tires. I just sold a forest River Wildwood that I purchased 2 years ago. The first thing I did when I purchased it was replace the tires. I heard so many bad things about the Castle Rock tires. Just wondering what experience people have had with the stock Winnebago tires. I believe they are labeled All Terrain. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

[Goodspike]

Mine came with "Goodride" tires. I replaced them with Goodyear tires right away--even the spare. If you can find a speed rating for your tires it's probably 65 mph. The Goodyear are something over 80. It's not that I want to go that fast, but I don't want to be driving at the limits of the trailer either.

[Blue Angel]

I just purchased a new 2020 Micro Minni and it came with Trail Guide/All Terrain tires. They are car tires. I called Discount Tire here in Houston and they said those are cheap tires for Jeep. Bought 5 Michelins to replace them.

[TomC]

Thanks, I will look at replacing them with Goodyear endurance.

[TomC]

Thanks, I guess I will replace them.

[COSCamper]

If you have the 15" tires, they aren't horrible, though certainly not the greatest. I plan to use a few years at least before replacing.

Note they are either R or S rated (can't remember), so they are over 100+ mph rated.

[Goodspike]

Originally Posted by COSCamper

Note they are either R or S rated (can't remember), so they are over 100+ mph rated.

Care to specify what brand and size this is. I've never seen a trailer tire rated anywhere near that speed level.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by COSCamper

If you have the 15" tires, they aren't horrible, though certainly not the greatest. I plan to use a few years at least before replacing.

Note they are either R or S rated (can't remember), so they are over 100+ mph rated.

Thanks for the reply.That’s what I was really wanting to hear was people’s experience with these tires. I hate to replace them immediately without some evidence that they are prone to blowouts in a short period of time. I hope some others will post on their experience with these tires. In the next 12 months I may put 5 to 6 thousand mile max.

[Goodspike]

Originally Posted by TomC

Thanks for the reply.That’s what I was really wanting to hear was people’s experience with these tires. I hate to replace them immediately without some evidence that they are prone to blowouts in a short period of time. I hope some others will post on their experience with these tires. In the next 12 months I may put 5 to 6 thousand mile max.

Well the problem with that is that is that you're getting anecdotal evidence, and that could either overstate or understate the problem. Also the post you're responding too has some questionable information--I cannot find a single trailer tire speed rating over N.

I think your tires may be rated L, which is 75 mph, which is better than what my tires were. So probably not as critical. I probably wouldn't have changed the spare with that rating. But the thing is having a tire fail will at a minimum change your travel plans for that day. If you have multiple reservations arranged. So there's also a how much risk do you want to take consideration.

This may be the same model as your tire, different size.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Tir...hoCEhcQAvD_BwE

[Goodspike]

BTW, the other thing to check on your OEM tires is their manufacture date. Mine were about two years older than the vehicle.

[COSCamper]

They are "Trail Guide All Terrain", google Micro Minnies, you can see in some dealer picks online, the lettering is white. Rv Trader has a few listings that show the tire somewhat well. I googled the tire but don't see the exact match, though some similar.

Camper is at storage, but I think the sidewall was ST235/75R15 109R, I got the first part from a dealer listing, and fairly sure it was 109R at the end for load/speed rating. I'd seen your posts about the 65mph rating and wanted to check, as that seems horribly low and we usually do ~70ish on interstate.

Again, they aren't the greatest tires out there, but should be fine for few years at least. Our last camper (Rpod) had similar "all terrain" 15" tire from china, no issues with those in 5 years.

[TomC]

More info. My tires are 235/75R/15. They were made in a Vietnam. They have a rating of M+S. They have a load rating of 2271 pounds. As someone has already stated I don’t believe these are trailer tires.

[Goodspike]

Originally Posted by COSCamper

They are "Trail Guide All Terrain", google Micro Minnies, you can see in some dealer picks online, the lettering is white. Rv Trader has a few listings that show the tire somewhat well. I googled the tire but don't see the exact match, though some similar.

Camper is at storage, but I think the sidewall was ST235/75R15 109R, I got the first part from a dealer listing, and fairly sure it was 109R at the end for load/speed rating. I'd seen your posts about the 65mph rating and wanted to check, as that seems horribly low and we usually do ~70ish on interstate..

Those may be truck/SUV tires. I'm not sure if that matters. Tandem axles do put different stresses on tires, but other than that I don't know of any reason not use use truck tires. Edit: Apparently truck tires can lead to increased sway on a trailer due to more flex in the sidewalls.

https://www.tires-easy.com/235-75-15...tirecode/TGT64

Yes, 65 mph is low, but that's what many trailer tires are, particularly OEM. Exceptions Jayco and a few others. My Winnebago came with tires rated for only 65 mph. As I stated before, I don't tend to go much faster than that, but I also don't want to feel like I'm pressing the limits of my tires or have an insurance company deny a claim because I was exceeding some vehicle or tire limit.

[RDP]

The 235/75R 15 109S XL on my 2306BHS has a speed rating (S) which is 112 mph according to the tire charts. I change them next year to Goodyear Endurance.

[n9wdq]

We have a "new" 2106 DS that we purchased last year. So far we have over 6K miles on the original Trail Guide/All Terrain tires. No issues to date. We very seldom go over 65 mph either

[mileshuff]

Originally Posted by Goodspike

Those may be truck/SUV tires. I'm not sure if that matters. Tandem axles do put different stresses on tires, but other than that I don't know of any reason not use use truck tires. Edit: Apparently truck tires can lead to increased sway on a trailer due to more flex in the sidewalls.

There are endless discussions on ST vs LT tires on RV's. To summarize the general consensus is a large preference for LT tires and an avoidance of most of the Chinese brand tires. For those with TT's and 5th wheels its very common for owners to use LT tires but not just any LT. Michelin XPS Rib and Bridgestone Duravis R250's are among the more popular.

There are a few quality ST tires. Maxxis M8008's are well proven and reliable.

[SonofBert]

Originally Posted by Goodspike

BTW, the other thing to check on your OEM tires is their manufacture date. Mine were about two years older than the vehicle.

Man date on my tires show 4117, 4217, 4617, 4717. 2019 1706fb, built 9/2018. So apx 1 yr older than the trailer.

They're the Trail Guide A/P 235/75R15 105S made in Vietnam. Not ST tires (which would have an ST prefix) they're SUV tires. Didn't look at the ply's but probably 2+2.

Max PSI is 44psi, dealer had them at 52psi, which is typical for ST tires because of a bit stronger sidewall ply's I think.

[MicroMinnie]

If you’re stuck changing one the road btw, it takes only 2 or 3 inches of lift to replace a flat. no need for a jack. the front one in this pic spins freely.

[SonofBert]

Originally Posted by MicroMinnie

If you’re stuck changing one the road btw, it takes only 2 or 3 inches of lift to replace a flat. no need for a jack. the front one in this pic spins freely.

Nice, thanks!

[Trout One]

Originally Posted by Goodspike

Mine came with "Goodride" tires. I replaced them with Goodyear tires right away--even the spare. If you can find a speed rating for your tires it's probably 65 mph. The Goodyear are something over 80. It's not that I want to go that fast, but I don't want to be driving at the limits of the trailer either.

This is interesting and I agree completely with the tendency towards "over-engineering" inherent in your comments. As I dig a little deeper into the numbers, though, I'm getting a little confused. The load index on my Goodride 205/75-14s (2019 1706FB with 2017 tire manufacturing dates) is 105/101M, with, if I'm understanding these numbers correctly, a speed rating of 87 mph. The Goodyear Endurance tires, which will be replacing these sooner rather than later are rated at 105/101N, indicating an 81 mph speed limit. However, as others have noted, all ST tires (by definition?) are limited to 65 mph. Not sure what to make of this. I'd also be curious to know what the 105/101 numbers indicate if anyone can explain that; there's no info on this in any cursory internet search; everyone concentrates on the ply rating definitions and not the load index, at least on trailer tires.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance...

Bob


Edit to add: the "N" vs "M" speed rating numbers came from this link: https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/...e-descriptions