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04-16-2020, 04:47 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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RV Toilet paper test...
Ok, I’m bored, so I’m running a test between two popular RV toilet papers, and a third one for home use.
All “say” septic safe. I used the same amount of paper in terms of length, and measured the thickness (I folded each one in 3rds) with a micrometer.
I also used the same ratio in the jars that I’d find in my black tank, using Thetford’s Aqua Kem.
I’ll post the results when I see how these break down. In the meantime, let the jokes roll in...
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04-16-2020, 05:01 PM
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Winnebago Master
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For accuracy the water coloring should have been yellow. And when you were done you could have opened a lemonade stand.
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04-16-2020, 05:10 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodspike
For accuracy the water coloring should have been yellow. And when you were done you could have opened a lemonade stand.
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Ok, good one...🧐😂
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04-16-2020, 07:55 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt
Ok, good one...🧐😂
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04-16-2020, 11:15 PM
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Site Team
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I have been very curious about this. My feeling is that with the black tank flushing port, it isn't as critical as it once was, so I usually buy whatever is cheapest, but maybe that isn't such a good idea. It is an interesting test to conduct.
Thanks, Eagle5.
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04-17-2020, 12:36 AM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5
I have been very curious about this. My feeling is that with the black tank flushing port, it isn't as critical as it once was, so I usually buy whatever is cheapest, but maybe that isn't such a good idea. It is an interesting test to conduct.
Thanks, Eagle5.
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It’s more my sensors I'm worried about getting clogged.
The RV specific toilet paper, as you can see by my micrometer test, is the issue, (not tissue). That stuff is garbage.
Trying to see if we can use regular household septic safe toilet paper like we use in our home and will probably use a third of it considering how much more dense it is. Take a look at those readings of my micrometer test. Ranged from 9/100 of an inch compared to 23 100th’s of an inch?
I think we’re getting ripped off, but we’ll see what the results come back tomorrow in so far as the breakdown of the various tissues I tested.
I started this at 1:30 today, April 16th. I plan on reporting my findings tomorrow, If there’s been any noticeable change.
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04-17-2020, 01:10 AM
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Site Team
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Hi Wyatt,
Those three toilet papers are perfect for testing (Scott, Aqua Soft, & Quilted Northern.) Scott is by far the most dense roll, and hence the most expensive, but you are not switching-out the roll nearly as often with Scott.
Thanks, Eagle5
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04-17-2020, 07:04 AM
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Site Team
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We did a test before enbarking on a countrywide tour 3 years ago and settled on the Sam's Club brand toilet paper as our go-to. It was a pain to buy in bulk and store but their paper was soft enough and broke down well enough that we were comfortable using that. **We installed a macerator in our RV when we first bought it so ensuring that the paper broke down a bit was a necessity.
It's performed well for us and we've never had an issue with the black tank sensors. We do every month or so when moving add some liquid diswasher soap and calgon to the tank with it containing some water then dump at the next park as soon as we hook up. That generally helps keep the tank in good working order.
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04-17-2020, 07:36 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomB
We did a test before enbarking on a countrywide tour 3 years ago and settled on the Sam's Club brand toilet paper as our go-to. It was a pain to buy in bulk and store but their paper was soft enough and broke down well enough that we were comfortable using that. **We installed a macerator in our RV when we first bought it so ensuring that the paper broke down a bit was a necessity.
It's performed well for us and we've never had an issue with the black tank sensors. We do every month or so when moving add some liquid diswasher soap and calgon to the tank with it containing some water then dump at the next park as soon as we hook up. That generally helps keep the tank in good working order.
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That Members Mark stuff is very heavy. This is interesting to say the least. I wonder if using the macerator is helping eliminate potential plugs?
I'm am curious to see how Wyatt's test works out.
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04-20-2020, 04:48 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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Location: Belmont, CA
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Toilet Paper Comparison Movie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt
It’s more my sensors I'm worried about getting clogged.
The RV specific toilet paper, as you can see by my micrometer test, is the issue, (not tissue). That stuff is garbage.
Trying to see if we can use regular household septic safe toilet paper like we use in our home and will probably use a third of it considering how much more dense it is. Take a look at those readings of my micrometer test. Ranged from 9/100 of an inch compared to 23 100th’s of an inch?
I think we’re getting ripped off, but we’ll see what the results come back tomorrow in so far as the breakdown of the various tissues I tested.
I started this at 1:30 today, April 16th. I plan on reporting my findings tomorrow, If there’s been any noticeable change.
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Ok, so after three days of testing, here are the results...
https://vimeo.com/user37682685/revie...812/093f83193c
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04-20-2020, 07:07 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt
It’s more my sensors I'm worried about getting clogged.
The RV specific toilet paper, as you can see by my micrometer test, is the issue, (not tissue). That stuff is garbage.
Trying to see if we can use regular household septic safe toilet paper like we use in our home and will probably use a third of it considering how much more dense it is. Take a look at those readings of my micrometer test. Ranged from 9/100 of an inch compared to 23 100th’s of an inch?
I think we’re getting ripped off, but we’ll see what the results come back tomorrow in so far as the breakdown of the various tissues I tested.
I started this at 1:30 today, April 16th. I plan on reporting my findings tomorrow, If there’s been any noticeable change.
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Be interesting what your findings will be. I know of a lot of people here in the RV park that would benefit from your tests.
As for my wife and myself, we don't put any toilet paper down the tank. Learning from our mission trips to 3rd world countries, they cannot and so we cannot flush TP down their systems. So we have adopted that system in our rigs also. Although, when back at the ranch, TP goes down with the flush there.
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04-20-2020, 09:43 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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Septic Safe Toliet Paper Test Results are in...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt
Ok, I’m bored, so I’m running a test between two popular RV toilet papers, and a third one for home use.
All “say” septic safe. I used the same amount of paper in terms of length, and measured the thickness (I folded each one in 3rds) with a micrometer.
I also used the same ratio in the jars that I’d find in my black tank, using Thetford’s Aqua Kem.
I’ll post the results when I see how these break down. In the meantime, let the jokes roll in...
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Finished the test, here’s the link, thought I already posted it...
https://vimeo.com/409959812
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04-21-2020, 01:22 AM
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Site Team
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Hi Wyatt,
Hurray! I was really hoping Scott Tissue would win, for these three simple reasons: - They have the highest wiping capacitance, because they are by far the most dense rolls. The longer a roll lasts, the more wiping power you can store under your sink, and really, isn't that what life is all about?
- It doesn't use any stupid advertising campaigns which we must endure on TV. Seriously, why does a bear need toilet paper at all? Don't they go in the woods anyway???
- The famed physicist Dr. Emmett Brown has stated on many occasions that Scott tissue is great!
Excellent Test
Thanks, Eagle5
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04-21-2020, 10:02 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5
Hi Wyatt,
Hurray! I was really hoping Scott Tissue would win, for these three simple reasons: - They have the highest wiping capacitance, because they are by far the most dense rolls. The longer a roll lasts, the more wiping power you can store under your sink, and really, isn't that what life is all about?
- It doesn't use any stupid advertising campaigns which we must endure on TV. Seriously, why does a bear need toilet paper at all? Don't they go in the woods anyway???
- The famed physicist Dr. Emmett Brown has stated on many occasions that Scott tissue is great!
Excellent Test
Thanks, Eagle5
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Great SCOTT... Good test Wyatt and thanks...
AS a side, I'm having problems with the GRAY and BLACK tank level indicators working properly. I tested them and yes they are doing what they are supposed to do. But I can not clean the probes, even by using some tank cleaners. Now, we don't put TP down the tanks. Try and use degreasing dish soaps. But the best I can get is 3/4 full when empty. Anyone else have this problem?
Thanks
Denny
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04-22-2020, 05:18 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Dec 2019
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i saw a test one time that just involved swirling the TP around in a jar... and if it dissolved into little bits it was good for RV use. They claimed that many TP's could pass that test.
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04-22-2020, 05:22 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Chardon, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topsail
That Members Mark stuff is very heavy. This is interesting to say the least.
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Have used Sam’s Club Members Mark going on our seventh summer and have never had any issues with our black tank.
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04-22-2020, 06:21 PM
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Hey Wyatt, thanks for your posting. Try Charmin Extra Soft vs. Charmin Extra Strong in your next test. My guess is that extra strong will not do well and hopefully extra soft will. Also, as a control, use a facial tissue such as Puffs (what I use) and probably note that it stays intact as the toilet paper breaks down to some degree. Facial tissue should not be flushed into any septic system as it is designed to stay intact in wet environments if it is worth it's salt.
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04-22-2020, 06:37 PM
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2016 Sunstar LX 35F
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Kirkland
I have been using Kirkland brand from COSTCO. It claims to be septic safe, and I have had no issues. Has anyone done a similar test with that?
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04-22-2020, 07:31 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
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Location: Belmont, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryMA
i saw a test one time that just involved swirling the TP around in a jar... and if it dissolved into little bits it was good for RV use. They claimed that many TP's could pass that test.
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Well, some just dissolve better than others, hence the test. I’m not done yet, I’m trying some more types. Though getting deliver of TP right now is tough. Stay tuned...
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04-22-2020, 08:34 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2019
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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but here is the results from another test of non-RV specific toilet paper.
Happy Camping!
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